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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 20 April 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 January 2025

Liz Smith

The overall scenario is that there are considerable difficulties in the housing market, which the Scottish Government and other parties are grappling with.

Is it not important that the policies that aim to address those concerns create investment opportunities, particularly for small developers and people who are there to provide a greater mix and supply of homes? I am interested in where the evidence is that the policy is driving that.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 January 2025

Liz Smith

That was in my question.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 January 2025

Liz Smith

However, do you agree, minister, that it all comes down to the issues that the convener raised about behavioural change? Behavioural change is important when it comes to not only demand for housing but supply, which Craig Hoy and Michelle Thomson mentioned. Surely there is a need for much more data to be able to see what effects the measure is having.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Scottish Fiscal Commission

Meeting date: 19 December 2024

Liz Smith

You cite countries including Germany, Switzerland and New Zealand in your sustainability statistics. One of the interesting dilemmas that we face in Scotland is how we react to increasing social security spend in the UK. If the Scottish Government makes a different policy choice, it will have implications for the block grant adjustment and the overall gap—that is the critical point. How is that gap funded? When you come to do your next fiscal sustainability report in due course, will you look at statistics that show that the trending increase in the proportionate share of the budget spend on social security will continue to increase, and probably substantially? Is that correct?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Scottish Fiscal Commission

Meeting date: 19 December 2024

Liz Smith

From your comparative studies against other countries, can you point to any evidence that shows why the UK, and Scotland in particular, has a higher incidence of people claiming benefits because of mental health issues? Is there any evidence that you can point to that helps with that?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Scottish Fiscal Commission

Meeting date: 19 December 2024

Liz Smith

I presume that that is very difficult to measure.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Scottish Fiscal Commission

Meeting date: 19 December 2024

Liz Smith

How you pay for it.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Scottish Fiscal Commission

Meeting date: 19 December 2024

Liz Smith

I presume, though, that it is an increasing factor, given the Scottish Government’s policy choice to mitigate the two-child cap, and it will have implications not only for the budget that has just been published but for subsequent years. Therefore, the aspect of that risk must be quite substantial in future budgets.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Scottish Fiscal Commission

Meeting date: 19 December 2024

Liz Smith

Professor Roy, at the Finance and Public Administration Committee just two weeks ago, you highlighted four specific risks for the Scottish budget—namely, the growth in public sector pay, the on-going demographic issue affecting the labour market, the national insurance changes that will have to take place in various portfolios and—as you mentioned just then—the social security gap of £1.3 billion over and above the block grant. Helpfully, you have also just said that, on 7 January, you will provide projected costings for the change to the two-child cap. Given those substantial risks across the economy, do you feel that the social security situation is dominating, in terms of the longer-term projections?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Scottish Fiscal Commission

Meeting date: 19 December 2024

Liz Smith

All countries are facing similar pressures, with the demand-led situation, the demographic change in the labour market and so on. How easy is it to make predictions in respect of the UK system of social security, which will obviously have implications for Scotland? Is it broadly in line with other countries when it comes to the share of the budget increasing?