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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 23 April 2025
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Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “NHS in Scotland 2023”

Meeting date: 20 June 2024

Graham Simpson

Okay, but you would not give the health service a clean bill of health, would you? If the health service was a person and it tried to get an appointment with a general practitioner, what would the GP say? Would they say, “Go away—you’re okay,” or would they say, “You need to rush to an accident and emergency department”?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “NHS in Scotland 2023”

Meeting date: 20 June 2024

Graham Simpson

Surely that situation needs to be sorted out, because you cannot plan if you do not know what is happening out there. If you do not have information on what patients are suffering with or whether people are struggling to see their GP—which, in some cases, they are—how can you plan ahead?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “NHS in Scotland 2023”

Meeting date: 20 June 2024

Graham Simpson

Do you agree that it is not sustainable? We cannot be in the situation every single year of boards saying, “We can’t make ends meet. You will have to give us more money,” can we?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “NHS in Scotland 2023”

Meeting date: 20 June 2024

Graham Simpson

I have mentioned GPs, so I will ask about them first. General practice is where people enter the system—they might end up in hospital, but GPs are their first port of call, so it is really important that the GP system, if I can call it that, works effectively. However, we often hear reports that people cannot get to see their GP because of the booking systems that some—not all—GPs operate.

I have done a mini survey of GPs in my area, Lanarkshire, and there are different models. For example, if you want a same-day appointment with my GP, you have to phone up at 8 am, and it is really difficult if you want to book for, say, the next week. Having to phone at 8 am puts people off. It certainly puts me off—because I am working, I wonder whether I will ever get to see my GP again. It is really difficult.

Do you have any data that shows what is happening out there with GPs?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “NHS in Scotland 2023”

Meeting date: 20 June 2024

Graham Simpson

Is that because you do not know the answer in this case?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “NHS in Scotland 2023”

Meeting date: 20 June 2024

Graham Simpson

All I am asking is whether, in that case, the NHS would have to pay a sum to retain the use of Wishaw general.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “NHS in Scotland 2023”

Meeting date: 20 June 2024

Graham Simpson

That would be useful.

When I was preparing for this meeting, I was curious about whether more people are going private, probably as a result of being completely fed up with trying to see their GP. It appears that more people are going private, and the number of private GP clinics in Scotland has more than trebled since 2019. Is that not an indication of failure somewhere? People should not have to pay to see a GP, should they?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “NHS in Scotland 2023”

Meeting date: 20 June 2024

Graham Simpson

I suppose that my question is: are we going to get a similar app here?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “NHS in Scotland 2023”

Meeting date: 20 June 2024

Graham Simpson

It will never be exactly the same, but, from a patient point of view, will there be an app that enables you to book an appointment, get repeat prescriptions and do other things? I mean, the app that we have been talking about does other stuff, too. Will we get something similar, and, if the answer to that is yes, when will we get it?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “NHS in Scotland 2023”

Meeting date: 20 June 2024

Graham Simpson

The end of this parliamentary session.