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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 20 April 2025
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Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of the Water Industry Commission for Scotland”

Meeting date: 9 January 2025

Graham Simpson

What kind of event might be considered—

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of the Water Industry Commission for Scotland”

Meeting date: 9 January 2025

Graham Simpson

I have also read the media report, but I checked, and the tender notice appears on the Government portal, so they have gone through that. You will be able to find that yourself. It just struck me that it is a large amount of money to find one person. I suppose that you will have to make an assessment at some point as to whether that is value for money. However, it on the Government portal; I am not just relying on a media report that you also read.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of the Water Industry Commission for Scotland”

Meeting date: 9 January 2025

Graham Simpson

I think that it is quite a fundamental question. This is an organisation that is regulating one body; it is not like the situation in England, where Ofwat regulates a number of private water companies. Here, we have a Government body that regulates another—only one—Government body, and it has a budget of £4 million and more than 20 staff. You might not want to answer the question, but surely it is valid to ask whether it is appropriate to have this body in its current form with that budget, or whether there should be something different.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of the Water Industry Commission for Scotland”

Meeting date: 9 January 2025

Graham Simpson

Carole Grant, you mentioned that you are aware of other Government organisations that do international work. Can you give us any examples?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of the Water Industry Commission for Scotland”

Meeting date: 9 January 2025

Graham Simpson

Are you satisfied that that kind of spending has now stopped?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of the Water Industry Commission for Scotland”

Meeting date: 9 January 2025

Graham Simpson

Earlier, you mentioned spending on a recruitment agency. I do not know if you are aware, but WICS recently issued a tender to seek a recruitment agency to find a new chief executive. If you include VAT, the value of that is around £45,000. That seems to be a large amount of money to find a new chief executive. Are you aware of that? If so, do you think that that is an appropriate figure? Indeed, should they be doing that in-house?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of the Water Industry Commission for Scotland”

Meeting date: 9 January 2025

Graham Simpson

Okay. Do you know why the limit was removed?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of the Water Industry Commission for Scotland”

Meeting date: 9 January 2025

Graham Simpson

Okay. Have you had any explanation as to why the limit was removed?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of the Water Industry Commission for Scotland”

Meeting date: 9 January 2025

Graham Simpson

Is WICS continuing to use business-class flights? I know that the hydro nation strategy has been paused, but have you come across any business-class flights being used?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of the Water Industry Commission for Scotland”

Meeting date: 9 January 2025

Graham Simpson

I have one further question. After all our work and the evidence sessions that we have had with you and with WICS, I have been left with the nagging question whether we need such a regulator for Scottish Water, or a regulator in its current form, and whether it represents value for money. Is that something that you have considered?