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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 26 February 2026
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Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Delayed discharges: A symptom of the challenges facing health and social care” and “Community health and social care: Performance 2025”

Meeting date: 18 February 2026

Graham Simpson

We have received a letter from Carers Scotland. I do not know whether you have seen it.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Section 22 Report: “The 2024/25 audit of the Scottish Public Pensions Agency”

Meeting date: 18 February 2026

Graham Simpson

As with Joe FitzPatrick, a lot of what I was going to ask has been covered, but I will pick up on the point about people being overpaid, because it is a serious point. Even though it might affect only a small number of people, they might have been overpaid significant amounts. Throughout this period, a number of people will have passed away who were not getting enough or who were getting too much. What is happening in those cases?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Section 22 Report: “The 2024/25 audit of the Scottish Public Pensions Agency”

Meeting date: 18 February 2026

Graham Simpson

Do we know whether that has been going on? Just imagine that you are a widow or a widower and, unbeknown to you, your partner has not been getting enough pension or has been getting too much. Suddenly, you get either a letter saying, “We owe you this” or one that says, “You owe us that.” Has that been happening?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Delayed discharges: A symptom of the challenges facing health and social care” and “Community health and social care: Performance 2025”

Meeting date: 18 February 2026

Graham Simpson

The term “rosy picture” was used earlier, and you said that it is not quite a rosy picture, which it is not, is it? The figures in the Auditor General’s report—there is a graph, which is exhibit 1—shows that there was, as you would expect, a huge dip in delayed discharges during Covid, then it rocketed, and now it is basically a straight line. It is stubbornly high and is not coming down. There is the occasional blip, but, in essence, it is high. It is probably higher than it has ever been, and we do not seem to be getting any improvement. Why is that, given that we have known about the issue for years?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Delayed discharges: A symptom of the challenges facing health and social care” and “Community health and social care: Performance 2025”

Meeting date: 18 February 2026

Graham Simpson

The Auditor General had to resort to coming up with figures of his own. In paragraph 26, he tells us that it is cheaper to have someone in a care home than in hospital. If that is the case, why are we not properly funding care places in order partly to fix the problem?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Delayed discharges: A symptom of the challenges facing health and social care” and “Community health and social care: Performance 2025”

Meeting date: 18 February 2026

Graham Simpson

Okay.

I have one last question. I have noticed that there are a number of working groups and strategies around. You have mentioned the collaborative response and assurance group, or CRAG. There is also the national care service advisory board, whose remit is

“to provide advice and suggest where improvements could be made”,

and the health and social care delayed discharge and hospital occupancy action plan—I am not sure how that is coming along. We also have the rapid peer response and support team, which provides

“targeted support to IAs struggling with persistent delayed discharge pressures”.

How effective do you think all these committees and plans are?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Delayed discharges: A symptom of the challenges facing health and social care” and “Community health and social care: Performance 2025”

Meeting date: 18 February 2026

Graham Simpson (Central Scotland) (Reform)

I completely agree with what the convener has just said.

I will now go back to the issue of power of attorney, which the convener explored earlier. It is important for people to have that in place. I was reflecting on experiences that I have had, and there are cases where people’s health goes downhill very quickly, so there is not time to put a power of attorney in place. Do you think, therefore, that maybe we need to put in place a system that deals with such situations so that families can act quickly?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Delayed discharges: A symptom of the challenges facing health and social care” and “Community health and social care: Performance 2025”

Meeting date: 18 February 2026

Graham Simpson

You have not, so I will quote from it, if that is okay. The letter came last month and it refers to a Carers Scotland report called “State of Caring”, which was published in November 2025 and which found that

“just 34% of unpaid carers said they were involved in decisions about discharge and what care and treatment was needed. Only 13% had been asked about their ability and willingness to provide care, down from 19% in 2024 and just 12% felt they had been provided with sufficient support on discharge to protect their health and wellbeing and that of the person they care for.”

If those figures are to be believed, and I have no reason to disbelieve them, they are pretty shocking, are they not?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Section 22 Report: “The 2024/25 audit of the Scottish Public Pensions Agency”

Meeting date: 18 February 2026

Graham Simpson

Okay. Committee members have probably not had the chance to read the letter that was written to the convener of the Finance and Public Administration committee and forwarded to this committee. Interestingly, the letter says that a meeting is scheduled today between

“the SPPA Chief Executive and Minister for Parliamentary Business … with an agenda focused on a ‘deep dive’ of McCloud Remedy delivery in the police pensions immediate choice cohort”—

whatever that is—

“member communications and engagement, and SPPA resources.”

I do not have a question for the Auditor General about that, but I wanted to highlight that there is a meeting today and that it would be good for us to hear about its outcome.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Best Value in policing: Joint Best Value audit of policing in Scotland”

Meeting date: 11 February 2026

Graham Simpson

Is it done geographically? Might there be one person for Glasgow and one for Edinburgh, for example?