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Official Report: search what was said in Parliament

The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 5 April 2025
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Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Coronavirus (Recovery and Reform) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 March 2022

Graham Simpson

Hello again, Mr Swinney.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Coronavirus (Recovery and Reform) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 March 2022

Graham Simpson

Like who? Who would be unwilling? You have relied on guidance.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Coronavirus (Recovery and Reform) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 March 2022

Graham Simpson

I might well do that, in order to help you out. I will leave it there.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Coronavirus (Recovery and Reform) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 March 2022

Graham Simpson

It can indeed, but it covers such a wide area. The Education, Children and Young People Committee has already taken evidence that included a view that some of the education provisions may be unlawful. If the bill goes through, you run the risk of facing legal challenge. Even if it was just a narrow legal challenge relating to the education part, the whole thing could fall. From my point of view, I do not like the bill, full stop. From your point of view, you want to get it through, but the whole thing could fall because you have decided to lump it together and there might be a legal challenge.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Evidence

Meeting date: 1 March 2022

Graham Simpson

The next provision relates to vaccination and immunisation. According to the policy note, the regulations allow people to be vaccinated or immunised against “any disease”, not just Covid, by someone who is not a medical practitioner. Can you explain the practicalities around that provision?

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Evidence

Meeting date: 1 March 2022

Graham Simpson

That is useful. The next section relates to education institutions and childcare premises. Your policy note says:

“To date the power to give “educational closure directions” ... has not been used. It is considered unnecessary to extend this power in addition to the power to give educational continuity directions”.

That is fine; you do not want that power. However, you do want powers to close boarding accommodation and student accommodation. Why do you need those powers?

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Evidence

Meeting date: 1 March 2022

Graham Simpson

Another crucial point is about whether we want to cede emergency powers to a Government or to councils and to let them become the norm.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Evidence

Meeting date: 1 March 2022

Graham Simpson

Those are emergency powers that were put in place for a variety of reasons and yet, in this case, you never used them; you relied on guidance. I cannot see why you would require to hang on to powers that, throughout the pandemic, you never used.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Evidence

Meeting date: 1 March 2022

Graham Simpson

The other instrument that you have come before the committee to speak about relates to powers for councils with regard to premises, events and public outdoor spaces. Can you explain what those powers actually are? Given that you are about to remove pretty much all the restrictions on our daily lives—face coverings will be the final one to go—why on earth would councils require to hang on to those powers for another six months?

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Evidence

Meeting date: 1 March 2022

Graham Simpson

If you have that range of powers, why do you need these?