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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 19 April 2025
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Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 8 September 2022

Graham Simpson

Prior to that, of course, was the announcement of the preferred bidder status. Which minister was involved in that?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 8 September 2022

Graham Simpson

Good morning, Mr Mackay.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 8 September 2022

Graham Simpson

It is good to see you.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 8 September 2022

Graham Simpson

I am asking about the specific meeting at which Jim McColl said that you told him, “I cannot tell CMAL to get involved in mediation.”

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 8 September 2022

Graham Simpson

Absolutely. Mr Middleton, at the start of the session, you described reporting the risks to ministers. Did I pick you up right in saying that it was only Derek Mackay to whom those were reported?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 8 September 2022

Graham Simpson

In your recollection and view, those risks would have been reported to Derek Mackay and his then boss, Keith Brown.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 8 September 2022

Graham Simpson

I have a final question, convener. What leaps out from the Auditor General’s report is that, despite the risks being reported, we do not know why ministers took the decision that they did. The Auditor General said that, when he wrote the report, there was “no documentary evidence”. Do you know why ministers ignored CMAL’s reservations?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 8 September 2022

Graham Simpson

I accept that you had a holiday, but before you went on it there must have been discussions about the issue. Were you not involved in any discussions?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 8 September 2022

Graham Simpson

Okay, so that is nothing to do with you, but what was to do with you was the ultimate decision to award the contract. Can I just be clear that you did know about the concerns of CMAL when you took that decision?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 8 September 2022

Graham Simpson

Do you agree that this has been a shambles from start to finish?