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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 21 April 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 15 March 2023

Graham Simpson

I want to ask again about the membership of the Grangemouth future industry board. I was just looking at its membership on the Scottish Government website. It seems to be entirely from the public sector. This question is for you, Derek, because you are on the board. Is there any private sector membership?

10:45  

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 15 March 2023

Graham Simpson

Good morning. I will start with SNIB, if that is okay. The question is for David or Mark. Actually, it is for David. Correct me if I am wrong, but I get the impression that although you are not involved in any companies in the Grangemouth area at the moment, you would like to be. You said that you are speaking to a number of businesses. What sort of businesses are you speaking to in the Grangemouth area?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 8 March 2023

Graham Simpson

We have covered a lot of ground already. I will follow up with you, Adam, on Colin Smyth’s line of questioning.

Community councils come in all shapes and sizes. Some are really effective and some are not that effective. As you have said, if you were to be invited to every organisation—we have already had a long list of them—that would really stretch you. Colin Smyth and I have both been councillors. Surely it is the job of councillors to attend such bodies and to feed back to you if you cannot go along. Do you agree with that?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 8 March 2023

Graham Simpson

That is a fair point.

Diarmaid Lawlor mentioned the greener Grangemouth programme. I am still not clear what it is. Could you explain that?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 8 March 2023

Graham Simpson

Has none of the projects been done?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 8 March 2023

Graham Simpson

That would be yet another committee.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 8 March 2023

Graham Simpson

You said that the people on the future industry board are the same people who are on the growth deal board. Do we need a future industry board?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 8 March 2023

Graham Simpson

You will be pleased to know that there will be another report and another consultation—the Government’s just transition plan, which has been mentioned. Is there a point to having a just transition plan? I address that question to Malcolm Bennie, because Diarmaid Lawlor has had a good run. What should be in such a plan? As Adam Gillies has said, it should not be just words. It will need to set out actions, projects and timescales. You have already mentioned that there are lots of ideas out there. However, for me, that plan should be about what we need, how much it will cost and how we get there. Is that how you see it?

10:30  

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 8 March 2023

Graham Simpson

I guess that we are right at the start of that journey. Are we?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 1 March 2023

Graham Simpson

Cliff Bowen spoke about the situation in Germany, where hydrogen filling stations are being put in. If that were done in Scotland, or throughout the UK, that would create a market, would it not?