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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 22 April 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 26 April 2023

Graham Simpson

Thanks for that. I have a few questions that arise from the sessions that we have already had and that have not been asked already.

Going back to the plan that you hope to produce—obviously, you cannot tell us what will be in the plan; I understand that—I wonder about the level of detail that might be in it. Will you set out when you hope to do things by? Going back to Fiona Hyslop’s question about transport, would it set out which roads you will fix, or will it just be aspirational?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 26 April 2023

Graham Simpson

Yes, that is correct. However, Jim Skea, who you mentioned earlier, said that he did not see the evidence to justify your belief—let us hope that you are right and that he is not—that we could be a major exporter of hydrogen. Furthermore, Friends of the Earth Scotland has referred to the Scottish Government’s “pie-in-the-sky predictions”. Who is right?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 26 April 2023

Graham Simpson

You are completely right, but the issue relates to a just transition.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 26 April 2023

Graham Simpson

I think that Màiri McAllan and Neil Gray must work together closely on the issue, and with the UK Government. Once we start to produce SAF in greater quantities, the price will come down and Scotland’s airports will benefit, because airlines will go there as they have SAF available. That represents a huge opportunity.

By the way, the cross-party group on aviation sent its report on the subject to the Scottish and UK Governments. We are still waiting to hear back from both Governments. It would be useful to get a response.

I will move on to hydrogen, which has been mentioned. Cabinet secretary, you were quoted in one of the newspapers—The Herald, I think—as saying that you thought that hydrogen could be a major export for Scotland. What did you base that on?

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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 26 April 2023

Graham Simpson

You are quite right not to make it up as you go along.

I want to double-check on the make-up of the Grangemouth future industry board. Both Liam Middleton and you, cabinet secretary, alluded to getting the private sector more involved. Will you ask for people to join the board or, as Liam has said, to engage with the board?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 19 April 2023

Graham Simpson

When you have those meetings around the country, do you invite local people so that you can find out about local issues?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 19 April 2023

Graham Simpson

I did not mean you.

This will be my final question. Do we have a timescale for when we expect to see the other sectoral plans?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 19 April 2023

Graham Simpson

You say that you have not really had a look at Grangemouth—clearly, this committee has been looking at Grangemouth. Has there been no discussion about what you would like to see in the Grangemouth plan or has there been some discussion? Can you give us a flavour of the things that you might want to see?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 19 April 2023

Graham Simpson

That makes sense and is an excellent approach. Committees of this Parliament often get the same people, so I know where you are coming from.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 19 April 2023

Graham Simpson

Fair enough. There might be some questions about communities later.

You said that some members of the commission want to take a more place-based approach. We have been talking about Grangemouth, but are there any other areas that you think deserve that approach?