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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 23 April 2025
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Public Audit Committee

“Investing in Scotland’s infrastructure”

Meeting date: 2 November 2023

Graham Simpson

Is the struggle that the Government is having holding up any projects?

Public Audit Committee

“Investing in Scotland’s infrastructure”

Meeting date: 2 November 2023

Graham Simpson

Moving on, I want to talk about the condition of the public sector estate. Your briefing repeats a call that you and this committee have made consistently for a consolidated account to be produced covering the devolved public sector in Scotland. What stage is the Scottish Government at in responding to that recommendation?

Public Audit Committee

“Investing in Scotland’s infrastructure”

Meeting date: 2 November 2023

Graham Simpson

That is a fair point. You also make a really good point about the use of buildings. For example, some councils have been considering closing leisure centres. However, if that happens, the NHS may turn around and say, “If you close that centre, it will impact people’s health, which will cause more problems for us.” Is that the kind of joined-up approach that should be taken? If a council is considering doing that sort of thing, should it talk to the health service?

Public Audit Committee

“Investing in Scotland’s infrastructure”

Meeting date: 2 November 2023

Graham Simpson

You are absolutely right. Sharon Dowey asked an interesting question—well, she asked lots of interesting questions—about the condition of the public sector estate. She said that the single Scottish estate programme survey is limited to only administrative buildings and not other buildings. What is the rationale behind that?

Public Audit Committee

“Investing in Scotland’s infrastructure”

Meeting date: 2 November 2023

Graham Simpson

You could do that afterwards. I am not asking you to read out all 13—that might take some time.

I note that one of the projects mentioned in exhibit 5 is the dualling of the A9. In the other three projects highlighted as examples in that exhibit, you have given figures for cost increases, but I note that you have not done the same for the A9. Is it possible to produce a figure for how much costs have increased over time from when the project was first announced?

Public Audit Committee

“Investing in Scotland’s infrastructure”

Meeting date: 2 November 2023

Graham Simpson

But in the exhibit, you give a figure of £3 billion.

Public Audit Committee

“Investing in Scotland’s infrastructure”

Meeting date: 2 November 2023

Graham Simpson

How should the Government address that?

Public Audit Committee

“Investing in Scotland’s infrastructure”

Meeting date: 2 November 2023

Graham Simpson

When you talk about the public sector estate, are you talking only about Scottish Government buildings or do you include things such as councils, because they are a large part of the public sector?

Public Audit Committee

“Investing in Scotland’s infrastructure”

Meeting date: 2 November 2023

Graham Simpson

You probably agree with the general thrust of my next question, then. If we are to do a survey of the public sector, it should be the entire public sector and not just Scottish Government buildings. It should include councils and health authorities, which you have mentioned—it should be everything.

Public Audit Committee

“Scotland’s colleges 2023”

Meeting date: 26 October 2023

Graham Simpson

The reason I ask is that I have been told that the Scottish Funding Council keeps its own risk register. There is basically a list of colleges that are doing well, some that are not doing so well and some that are listed as potentially being at risk of closing. My understanding is that there are five such colleges. Have you heard that?