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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 24 April 2025
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Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Adult mental health”

Meeting date: 9 November 2023

Graham Simpson

What questions did you ask? If you ask, “Do you get stressed about things?”, most people will say yes. It depends on what you ask and how you phrase a question.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Adult mental health”

Meeting date: 9 November 2023

Graham Simpson

I am glad that you have injected some positivity. I know that you have to shoot off, so I will let you go, but thanks for that—I appreciate it.

I will put my next question just to Jo Anderson, because we are up against the clock. You mentioned outcomes, and the report states:

“The Scottish Government does not measure the quality of services or outcomes for people receiving mental healthcare.”

That seems to me to be a huge oversight. If you accept that the situation should be rectified, how should it be rectified, and what kind of things should we measure?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Adult mental health”

Meeting date: 9 November 2023

Graham Simpson

That is possibly a question for the Scottish Government, and we will have it in at some point.

I have a separate question about something that arises in the report. This is not necessarily a question for Jo Anderson—I am just looking at you because you are in the room, but it could be for anyone. The report says that spending on medicines to deal with mental health has gone down, because the cost of drugs has gone down, but that the number of items being dispensed has gone up. Does anyone have a view on whether it is appropriate that we are prescribing more and more drugs? Are there better ways of dealing with mental health issues? Is it too easy to prescribe drugs?

I see someone nodding, and I think that it is Simon Porter, so he might want to come in on that.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Adult mental health”

Meeting date: 9 November 2023

Graham Simpson

Right. Paula Fraser was mentioned first.

Public Audit Committee

“Investing in Scotland’s infrastructure”

Meeting date: 2 November 2023

Graham Simpson

But what is that an estimate of?

Public Audit Committee

“Investing in Scotland’s infrastructure”

Meeting date: 2 November 2023

Graham Simpson

Do you know what the original figure was?

Public Audit Committee

“Investing in Scotland’s infrastructure”

Meeting date: 2 November 2023

Graham Simpson

Okay. So we can expect the figure to be far more than that.

Public Audit Committee

“Investing in Scotland’s infrastructure”

Meeting date: 2 November 2023

Graham Simpson

The Government has said that it is committed to doing the full road, although it is fair to say that it has dithered over that, and that dithering has, in my view, led to the increase in costs. When it makes the announcement, as we expect, in December, we can expect that £3 billion cost to have soared. It is fair to say that, is it not?

Public Audit Committee

“Investing in Scotland’s infrastructure”

Meeting date: 2 November 2023

Graham Simpson

I have no more questions on that particular section.

Public Audit Committee

“Investing in Scotland’s infrastructure”

Meeting date: 2 November 2023

Graham Simpson

You have just mentioned Barlinnie, Auditor General, and the lack of a business case for a replacement. Why has that not been produced yet?