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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 14 November 2025
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Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“NHS in Scotland: Spotlight on governance”

Meeting date: 24 September 2025

Graham Simpson

That seems quite high to me.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“NHS in Scotland: Spotlight on governance”

Meeting date: 24 September 2025

Graham Simpson

Do you think that, when boards advertise for a board chair, they should change the way in which they advertise the role?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“NHS in Scotland: Spotlight on governance”

Meeting date: 24 September 2025

Graham Simpson

Do they sit on two boards? Are there any people who sit on more than two boards?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“NHS in Scotland: Spotlight on governance”

Meeting date: 24 September 2025

Graham Simpson

That would be interesting.

I want to ask about time and remuneration. Obviously, people need to have the time to perform a role. That is a factor. However, you have raised the issue of remuneration. Are you saying that board chairs, for example, are not paid enough—or not enough to attract the right people?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“NHS in Scotland: Spotlight on governance”

Meeting date: 24 September 2025

Graham Simpson

What is the level of remuneration for, say, a board chair or a member of a board?

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Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“NHS in Scotland: Spotlight on governance”

Meeting date: 24 September 2025

Graham Simpson

It is useful for us to know that. If there is an issue—if people are thinking that about £30,000 for two days a week is not of interest—it is good to know about it.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“NHS in Scotland: Spotlight on governance”

Meeting date: 24 September 2025

Graham Simpson

They are told that it is two days a week, but it ends up being more.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“NHS in Scotland: Spotlight on governance”

Meeting date: 24 September 2025

Graham Simpson

I will sort of follow on from that. Earlier, I gave an example from the area that the convener and I represent: the former chair of NHS Lanarkshire has moved and is now the chair of NHS Forth Valley. I put it to the commissioner that that might be inappropriate, and he seemed to think that it was not the best situation.

What do you make of that? Is that an example of how we are struggling to fill positions? Would it not be better if we could have got somebody different? That is not to cast aspersions on the chair, who is a fine woman—

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“NHS in Scotland: Spotlight on governance”

Meeting date: 24 September 2025

Graham Simpson

Richard Leonard and I have worked with her over many years. However, it just does not seem right.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“NHS in Scotland: Spotlight on governance”

Meeting date: 24 September 2025

Graham Simpson

That is a good point to make. We have no complaints about her at all. You have put on the record that there was a gap, so that is good.

On remuneration, I was not clear whether you said that you have moved one board or all boards into tier 1.