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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Session 6: 13 May 2021 to 8 April 2026
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 25 September 2024

Willie Coffey

Do you want to add a wee bit, Douglas?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 25 September 2024

Willie Coffey

That is brilliant. I have a few more questions that I would like to ask both of you.

We noted at committee previously that Highlands and Islands Enterprise seems to be scaling back a wee bit on its assessment and evaluation activity. There has been a little bit of discussion of that around the table this morning. Can you confirm that you do not have any intention of doing that, and that you will thoroughly report on, evaluate and assess the impact of your achievements and so on?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 25 September 2024

Willie Coffey

I will wear my parochial hat. You both mentioned some impressive figures at the outset. Al Denholm spoke about £650 million being invested in 37 businesses. Adrian spoke about 80,000 jobs being delivered, and 26,000 jobs in the investment pipeline coming along. If I ask you about this as an Ayrshire member of the Scottish Parliament, can I—or any of my colleagues—see where the benefit of all of that is going in relation to our particular parts of Scotland? Do you do that? I am not asking you for it now, but could we, as members of Parliament, see how that impact and those benefits are being spread around Scotland, so that all the communities in Scotland benefit from the activity?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 24 September 2024

Willie Coffey

Goodness. Thank you for that.

My final question is on general financial sustainability indicators, which I ask you both to comment on. In Scotland, our Improvement Service publishes those to guide us. Are the financial sustainability indicators, which, collectively, we all use, fit for purpose? Do we need to think differently about what financial sustainability should look like in the medium to long term? What measures should we introduce to get a better and more rounded picture of what we need to know?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 24 September 2024

Willie Coffey

Good morning to you both. I want to continue briefly with the discussion that Emma Roddick led, using the example of the Welsh councils. As I understand it, the Welsh councils are saying that they are less likely to end up in a bankrupt situation than their English council counterparts, as a result of their close relationship with central Government. As we do not have our Welsh colleagues in front of us, perhaps you can offer an explanation. What do they mean by that? Do councils there have a tighter financial relationship with the Welsh Parliament?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 24 September 2024

Willie Coffey

I do not want to pick on poor old Woking, but were that council’s financial stability indicators not ringing alarm bells during the process of racking up a £2 billion pound deficit? Did it have any indicators that might have alerted it to that?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 24 September 2024

Willie Coffey

We can perhaps follow up on that if we get an opportunity later.

I come back to the audit function. You mentioned a few times that the Audit Commission in England was disbanded in 2015. How much may that decision have led to the problems that the English councils in particular have faced? We know that audit has not disappeared—the audit function is prevalent at every level of local government. Why, therefore, when the Audit Commission disappeared in 2015, did that lead to the circumstances that we have discussed unfolding in England? Alternatively, would you say that it had nothing to do with that?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 24 September 2024

Willie Coffey

That was a really thorough explanation, Abdool. While you were giving it, I was wondering why the internal audit function in Woking, which was mentioned in a previous example, did not wake up earlier to the prospect that it was about to go £2 billion into the red. What was happening there?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 24 September 2024

Willie Coffey

Do you know whether many councils are deploying that?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 24 September 2024

Willie Coffey

I look forward to the update that will be published in January, as it will clear up all those issues for us. Many thanks for your answers.