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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 31 March 2025
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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Building Safety and Maintenance

Meeting date: 18 March 2025

Willie Coffey

Thank you, again, Shona.

I will turn to Emma Saunders, briefly. Your submission told of the need for impartial independent expertise, advice and reports about the issues, because tenants might not always trust reports by the landlord on the condition of a house. Could you explain to the committee why you think that that is important?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Building Safety and Maintenance

Meeting date: 18 March 2025

Willie Coffey

Are there any other views from the panel on the idea of having some kind of front-end assessment of a property’s condition?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Building Safety and Maintenance

Meeting date: 18 March 2025

Willie Coffey

Are there any other comments on that?

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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Building Safety and Maintenance

Meeting date: 18 March 2025

Willie Coffey

Good morning to everybody on the panel.

Thinking about the examples that people have cited just now and in previous years, is it your experience that the damp and mould are already there when people get the tenancy and do not occur after they take up the tenancy? My experience over the years, as a councillor and in the Parliament, is that the damp and mould are there in the first place. Should there be a system that assesses the fitness of the property initially, at the letting stage, in which the landlord—whoever it is—declares that the house is fit for purpose and does not have damp and mould? All the problems that we are dealing with today are there when a tenant begins living in a property.

Thinking about the example that Sean Clerkin gave of a person having lived in the property for 14 years, I would bet that the damp and mould were there in the beginning, before that person got the house. Do you think that we should look at the front end of the process and correctly assess the condition of a house at that point, to make sure that it can be let?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Building Safety and Maintenance

Meeting date: 18 March 2025

Willie Coffey

Thank you, convener. Good morning to you both.

I want to ask you about trust. Who can tenants who live in a house that suffers from dampness and mould trust? My experience as an elected member is littered with examples of council officials turning up and blaming tenants an their lifestyle for being the principal cause of dampness and mould in the house. That has been going on for years.

You might have heard a wee bit of the discussion with the previous witnesses about who we can trust to tell us the truth about the condition of a house. Do you have a view on that? Who should that be? Should there be an independent panel of experts, as has been mentioned, so that tenants can understand what is being said to them and can trust what is being said about repairs to their houses?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Building Safety and Maintenance

Meeting date: 18 March 2025

Willie Coffey

Many thanks for that. I realise that I am probably encroaching on my colleagues’ questions, which will give you a chance to develop that theme.

I would like to get a sense of what the other witnesses think. Do we need to do something at the front end of the letting process of a tenancy, so that tenants can be assured that the house they get does not have damp and mould present? Would that be a good idea?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Building Safety and Maintenance

Meeting date: 18 March 2025

Willie Coffey

Thanks, convener. Building maintenance has been an issue for years. Suddenly, we discover that there is RAAC and there is a problem to be addressed. Have we collectively taken our eye off the ball with that issue? Scotland is a wet country. It rains 200 days a year, so it should not come as a surprise that the buildings get wet from time to time. Why should it have come as a surprise that we get these issues with RAAC? Should we have been closely examining it regularly and looking at maintenance issues? Who should have done it? Should building owners and landlords have done it? Should they continue to do it in the future?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Building Safety and Maintenance

Meeting date: 18 March 2025

Willie Coffey

Would standard guidance cover that? If the issues are variable wherever we see RAAC, would standard guidance work?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Building Safety and Maintenance

Meeting date: 18 March 2025

Willie Coffey

Who should do that kind of assessment?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Building Safety and Maintenance

Meeting date: 18 March 2025

Willie Coffey

Gloria, how do we establish public trust so that people can be assured that what they are being told about the condition of their house is correct and accurate?