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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 21 April 2025
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Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2021/22 audit of the Scottish Government Consolidated Accounts”

Meeting date: 19 January 2023

Willie Coffey

Only last night, I spoke, to the leader of East Ayrshire Council, who is not aware of any scrutiny, governance or accountability arrangements being requested of the council by anyone. A recurring issue at the committee for quite some time has been about where that scrutiny lies. In effect, we seem to be getting public investment announcements by press release. Do you agree that that could hardly pass as the rigorous process that we pride ourselves on in this Parliament?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2021/22 audit of the Scottish Government Consolidated Accounts”

Meeting date: 19 January 2023

Willie Coffey

Auditor General, could I briefly take you back to the comments that you made about Prestwick airport? You said a couple of times in response to questions that that investment, perhaps along with one or two of the others that have been discussed, is unlikely to achieve value for money. I am interested in how Audit Scotland defines value for money. When you look at the wider circumstances of Prestwick, you can see that the Government’s investment saved the airport and the jobs. That also happened at Ferguson’s, where the workers agreed that the investment saved the yard and the jobs. The Ayrshire growth deal depends to a great extent on the existence of the airport to support the wider economy and the aerospace industry there. The Mangata investment is coming, bringing 575 jobs that would probably not come if the airport were not there. Given those wider circumstances and the impacts on the Ayrshire economy, how can you possibly say that the Government’s investment is unlikely to deliver value for money?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2021/22 audit of the Scottish Government Consolidated Accounts”

Meeting date: 19 January 2023

Willie Coffey

I will combine those questions, convener, to save time.

In a previous discussion that we had with you about the public sector consolidated accounts, you referred to an IT issue at HM Treasury. Has that been resolved, and does it prevent us from making the progress that you hope that we will make?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2021/22 audit of the Scottish Government Consolidated Accounts”

Meeting date: 19 January 2023

Willie Coffey

Is the £132 million difference between those two figures—the £806 million in the report and your figure of £674 million—deployable elsewhere? Can that be carried forward to other expenditure, topics or items elsewhere, or does it have to be for student loans?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2021/22 audit of the Scottish Government Consolidated Accounts”

Meeting date: 19 January 2023

Willie Coffey

Okay. I will leave it at that. Thanks very much.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2021/22 audit of the Scottish Government Consolidated Accounts”

Meeting date: 19 January 2023

Willie Coffey

Thank you for that. Is Audit Scotland’s principal concern to get back the money that was invested? On balance, when you look at that investment and the other investments and benefits that I described, is it principally about the financial transaction and getting that cash back at some point?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2021/22 audit of the Scottish Government Consolidated Accounts”

Meeting date: 19 January 2023

Willie Coffey

Great stuff. I also have a question on performance reporting, which is a common thread at the committee. I want to give the Auditor General an opportunity to say a few words about that and about our pursuit of linking spend to outcomes and targets and so on. Can you say a few words about your recommendations in that area? I will leave it at that.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Allotments

Meeting date: 17 January 2023

Willie Coffey

Is there enough resilience in communities, given the time that they might need to consider such a transaction? Do you get a sense that communities will get first call on a land sale, or is that not your intention behind the provisions?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 17 January 2023

Willie Coffey

My last question is about certainty and multiyear funding announcements and arrangements. Is that becoming an embedded approach that the Scottish Government will hope to continue to take so that councils can plan ahead for two or three years rather than having annual preparation and planning, which is sometimes subject to volatile changes in the economy? Would you prefer to stick with multiyear settlements providing that level of certainty?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 17 January 2023

Willie Coffey

It was nice to hear you reminisce about the historic concordat of 2007.

The narrative around ring fencing tends to be kind of negative. The impression is that we are forcing councils to do things that they do not want to do. However, we understand that those are shared priorities. Might we try to get into that kind of discussion, so that it is not seen that local authorities are being directed from the top to do things that they might not want to do? In fact, they share those priorities with the Government, do they not?