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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 15 April 2025
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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Building Safety

Meeting date: 18 April 2023

Willie Coffey

Do you know whether the UK Government is doing any equivalent work in that area? I talked about building MOTs. I think that we used that phrase at a previous committee meeting to try to articulate the process better for purchasers. Does that concept make sense? Do you know whether the UK Government is going down the route of trying to provide greater reassurance to buyers that their house is fit for purpose in regard to the issues that I mentioned?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Building Safety

Meeting date: 18 April 2023

Willie Coffey

Good morning to you all. I have some questions on building standards in general but, first, do you think that the changes to the building standards that were introduced last year deliver higher levels of fire safety? What evidence can we draw on as a committee to demonstrate that? I will start with Calum.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Building Safety

Meeting date: 18 April 2023

Willie Coffey

I should say to Calum McQueen that I was going to come to John-Paul Breslin anyway, but I thought that I would give him a chance first.

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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Building Safety

Meeting date: 18 April 2023

Willie Coffey

Do you see there being a kind of checklist of things that should be there—almost like an MOT certificate of construction compliance? We are all laypersons when we buy a house. If I was buying a new house, I would not know whether there was sound insulation, so we rely on the professionals to tell us that a set of things is required and for that to be signed off, in a sense. Do we have that kind of system yet?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Building Safety

Meeting date: 18 April 2023

Willie Coffey

Nigel Sellars, do you have anything to offer in that regard? I realise that I have not come to you yet.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Building Safety

Meeting date: 18 April 2023

Willie Coffey

That is a great point. A number of issues were raised with the committee when we looked at this previously, as well as with me in my role as a constituency member. I will just share an example with you and ask for your opinion on it.

A retired person bought a flat and subsequently wanted to sell that flat, only to discover that it had no fire safety measures and no sound insulation. They are now having incredible difficulty, as you might imagine, in trying to sell it. There is a debate about where the responsibility falls—there is the builder’s responsibility and then, of course, there is the responsibility of the local authority to inspect, and so on. It is in that territory. Whose responsibility is it to assure a person who is about to buy a house that it is fit for purpose, especially in relation to fire safety and other measures such as sound insulation?

I was going to come to you anyway on that point, John-Paul, to see whether you could assist with that type of inquiry.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Building Safety

Meeting date: 18 April 2023

Willie Coffey

Is the process thorough enough to find deficiencies that are as serious as those that I mentioned? In that particular case, it clearly was not thorough enough, so I wonder whether the new standards that we have introduced will give people the assurance that that kind of thing cannot happen in the future—particularly for fire safety but also for other matters that I have mentioned. Has the process improved? Could that circumstance happen again?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Building Safety

Meeting date: 18 April 2023

Willie Coffey

Do you recognise that that is a potential issue even going forward now? When people buy a house, one of their principal concerns must be whether it is fire safe. Somebody should tell them whether it is, and they should be able to see that in documentary evidence, without opening up cavities and having a look. Surely, that should be recorded somewhere to give people the assurance that the house that they are about to buy complies with all those requirements. Do people get that as purchasers or does it happen through the survey process?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Building Safety

Meeting date: 18 April 2023

Willie Coffey

Therein lies the problem. The builder who constructed the house subsequently went out of business and could not perform any remediation. The owner is left with the house and unable to sell it. I am trying to get at whether we have improved those circumstances for the public in Scotland who are buying and selling houses.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Building Safety

Meeting date: 18 April 2023

Willie Coffey

Thank you, everybody, for your contributions.