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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 4 April 2025
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Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “How the Scottish Government is set to deliver climate change goals”

Meeting date: 18 May 2023

Willie Coffey

My point is on the comments in paragraph 24 on risk that Craig Hoy led on. The risk was established in 2019, and we would probably all put in a corporate risk register, if we were writing it ourselves, that we might not meet net zero targets. Are you saying that there has been no review of that risk since then, and therefore that the risk remains as high as it was then?

Given Chris Stark’s comment that we have largely decarbonised the power system, which I mentioned earlier, does that not tell us that the overall risk must surely have diminished? That is how I see it, but I would appreciate your view on that.

What evidence would you lean on to say that it is very likely that we will not meet the net zero target? What is that based on if we have evidence in front of us that says that there has been a reduction in that risk?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “How the Scottish Government is set to deliver climate change goals”

Meeting date: 18 May 2023

Willie Coffey

I want to talk a little bit more about spending impacts, which we have touched on a few times already in this conversation. Can you give us a sense of how you see that issue panning out? Are you saying that the Government needs to be clearer about its spending targets to achieve the net zero targets and so on? You said a moment ago that, because of climate change, we are going to have to spend additional money on things such as flood prevention. Can you give us some perspective on the spending situation as we look forward and think about how we tackle these issues?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “How the Scottish Government is set to deliver climate change goals”

Meeting date: 18 May 2023

Willie Coffey

I am glad that you mentioned the Climate Change Committee. Chris Stark gave evidence to our Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee a couple of weeks ago and his initial message was pretty positive. He started the discussion by telling us that we have basically achieved decarbonisation of the power system in Scotland but that the big-ticket items that remain—you mentioned a few of them, Stephen—are the impact on our buildings and homes, which is a huge issue, and transport. He also mentioned industry and agriculture. Those are the big issues in the second half of the marathon in which we are engaged and they will be the most difficult to deliver. Do you recognise that and accept that they are the biggest challenges that we still face?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “How the Scottish Government is set to deliver climate change goals”

Meeting date: 18 May 2023

Willie Coffey

Chris Stark talked about having quantified delivery plans. That was a common theme throughout what he said. Do you recognise that? Are we short on quantifying what we want to achieve in a range of policy areas? If we take as an example the target to reduce car kilometres by 20 per cent by 2030, it does not take a genius to work out that we will need that to drop by around 3 per cent for the next seven years to get to the target. Is that the kind of thing that we need to quantify in order to be able to report on whether we have achieved the target?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “How the Scottish Government is set to deliver climate change goals”

Meeting date: 18 May 2023

Willie Coffey

Are you broadly satisfied that we are focused sufficiently on the quantification process across portfolio areas?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “How the Scottish Government is set to deliver climate change goals”

Meeting date: 18 May 2023

Willie Coffey

You have covered a couple of areas that I was going to touch on. Thank you for that.

You also say that we need to be clearer about what policies will appear in the updated climate change plan. What do we need to do to make that abundantly clear?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “How the Scottish Government is set to deliver climate change goals”

Meeting date: 18 May 2023

Willie Coffey

It is a matter not just of getting clarity, but of our having to face up to the need to shift the balance and emphasis in our budgeting.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Damp and Mould in Social and Private Rented Housing

Meeting date: 16 May 2023

Willie Coffey

Should landlords be permitted to let a house that has clear signs of mould and condensation?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Damp and Mould in Social and Private Rented Housing

Meeting date: 16 May 2023

Willie Coffey

Good morning, everyone. It is pretty appalling, is it not, that we have had to wait for the inevitable tragedy to occur to waken everybody up to this issue? I have been a local councillor since 1992, and a member of the Parliament since 2007, and I would say that one of the most frequently occurring complaints that I have had as an elected member is about dampness and mould in tenants’ houses. The situation is greatly improved where I am from, but the issue still exists.

Is it now time that the statutory definition of tolerable standard included mould and condensation as a recognised hazard? I would appreciate your views on that question.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Damp and Mould in Social and Private Rented Housing

Meeting date: 16 May 2023

Willie Coffey

The consequence of that is that, at the moment, it is entirely possible, legitimate and legal for a landlord to allocate to a family a house that has mould in it. That could happen today or tomorrow. Do we not want to have a serious look at that issue and clarify and embrace it as part of what the tolerable standard should be?