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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 21 March 2025
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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 19 September 2023

Willie Coffey

I will ask the same question about the ageing workforce that I asked the previous two witness panels. We heard that there is an ageing workforce in local government, but we are also hearing that local government workers retire early. Earlier, a witness tried to explain the dynamics of why that is the case. Does all that imply that we need to do more to recruit younger people to replace those who retire? I know that that is difficult, because a huge number of local government posts require experience, but what is your perspective on what we can do to turn that around? I will start with Mo Baines again, if that is okay.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 19 September 2023

Willie Coffey

It is more about an expression of what we think we need to do to serve our communities better. That seems to explain the disparity in the figures that we see quoted from time to time.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 19 September 2023

Willie Coffey

Thank you for that, Johanna. I have a follow-up question that touches on inequalities. Linda Somerville introduced some ideas about the problems that we face with inequalities. The Association for Public Service Excellence’s report on local government highlighted that most local authority staff are women, which we all kind of knew anyway. We also know that there are still inequalities in pay and progression and that there are problems with the gendered segregation of occupations. In some of her earlier comments, Linda offered a few suggestions about how we might overcome those problems. I invite our three witnesses to expand on that. What are we doing to address those continuing inequalities, particularly for women?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 19 September 2023

Willie Coffey

Good morning to everyone on this wet and miserable day in Edinburgh. Linda, you opened up with comments about the budget allocations, which were important to hear and get on the record. You mentioned the £1 billion shortfall, and that has been mentioned several times to the committee in the past. The finance circular that accompanies the provisional budget shows a 1.3 per cent real-terms increase from last year to this. Over the past 10 years, the provisional revenue settlement is actually a 4.3 per cent real-terms increase.

Can you explain why there is such a divide between your estimate of the situation and the figures in things such as the finance circulars? How do we get such different figures?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 19 September 2023

Willie Coffey

Thanks for that. I invite Sean Baillie or Johanna Baxter to comment on our predecessor committee’s comments about the local authority workforce not being particularly representative of the communities that they serve. Do you recognise that and is there something that we can do to improve that? After your response, I will move on to another question.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 19 September 2023

Willie Coffey

Johanna Baxter, how do we solve the problem of gender segregation? How can we encourage and promote more women into work? Are there other more creative ideas around part-time and flexible working, such as those that Linda Somerville highlighted, that could attract more women into the local authority workforce?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 19 September 2023

Willie Coffey

Thank you very much for all of those contributions.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 19 September 2023

Willie Coffey

Thank you very much.

My other question is on the gender pay gap issue that you might have heard about in the other sessions. Is that gap improving or worsening? What is your experience? I will start again with Mo Baines.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 19 September 2023

Willie Coffey

Fiona Whittaker or Gerry Cornes, is there another dimension to that? Do we need to think more carefully about how we try to attract people into work and to recognise their personal needs as they come into the world of work? Do we need to adapt and be more flexible?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 19 September 2023

Willie Coffey

Robert Emmott, do you have any additional perspective about the ageing workforce?