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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 19 March 2026
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Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Section 22 Report: “The 2024/25 audit of the Scottish Public Pensions Agency”

Meeting date: 17 March 2026

Joe FitzPatrick

That makes sense, but there is a need to ensure that the process is more transparent. Maybe the auditors should have been able to identify that somewhere. It is important for audit purposes that those meetings are not just happening but minuted and recorded.

Lesley, something was clearly not right before. Are you comfortable that things are moving to a better place?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Section 22 Report: “The 2024/25 audit of the Scottish Public Pensions Agency”

Meeting date: 17 March 2026

Joe FitzPatrick

Thank you.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Section 22 Report: “The 2024/25 audit of the Scottish Public Pensions Agency”

Meeting date: 17 March 2026

Joe FitzPatrick

I have a couple of questions around governance and transparency. I know that, in your opening remarks, you acknowledged the challenges around transparency, and Lesley Fraser responded in some detail to Graham Simpson’s question on certain aspects of transparency, so we do not need to go over those bits again.

However, it is really important that we have full transparency going forward. You have mentioned a couple of areas where you think that that could be improved, and you have talked about the FPA Committee, too, so how will you make sure that there is full transparency for the three stakeholder groups—the scheme members, the SPPA’s audit and risk committee and the Scottish Parliament—on both the remedy and on wider issues? If something were to go wrong in another area—or even go better than expected—how would you make sure that those three key stakeholders were kept up to date?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Section 22 Report: “The 2024/25 audit of the Scottish Public Pensions Agency”

Meeting date: 17 March 2026

Joe FitzPatrick

That is important. After all, if you are not taking a note of those meetings, it brings us back to the issue of transparency.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Section 22 Report: “The 2024/25 audit of the Scottish Public Pensions Agency”

Meeting date: 17 March 2026

Joe FitzPatrick

You mentioned the audit and risk committee. There was concern that that committee had not received the information and support that it required, but you have said that it is now getting more support. Are you confident that it is now getting the information and support that it needs to do its job?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Section 22 Report: “The 2024/25 audit of the Scottish Public Pensions Agency”

Meeting date: 17 March 2026

Joe FitzPatrick

One thing that was flagged by the auditor was the reduction in formal meetings of both ARC and the scheme pension boards. Why are there fewer formal meetings? Does that not pose a challenge for transparency?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Section 22 Report: “The 2024/25 audit of the Scottish Public Pensions Agency”

Meeting date: 17 March 2026

Joe FitzPatrick

What you say about reducing the total number of meetings while still having each of the pension boards attend the same number of meetings sounds sensible. Are those meetings still formal ones that are minuted?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Public Health Scotland

Meeting date: 10 March 2026

Joe FitzPatrick

Dr Gulhane’s comments about minimum unit pricing being the only thing that the Government does on alcohol were unfair. There is a range of strategies.

It would be useful for the committee if I put it on the record that, in response to a question from Elena Whitham, Maree Todd announced yesterday that she has published the new “Preventing Harm, Promoting Recovery: Scotland’s Alcohol and Drugs Strategic Plan”. It is probably useful for folk to have a look at that to see the range of activities that the Government and its partners—particularly in coalition with COSLA—are undertaking on those two important areas.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“NHS in Scotland 2025: Finance and performance”

Meeting date: 4 March 2026

Joe FitzPatrick

Do you have a ballpark figure for that?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“NHS in Scotland 2025: Finance and performance”

Meeting date: 4 March 2026

Joe FitzPatrick

There have been a couple of times when more senior people were invited to give evidence, and they should have been there because they are the right people, but they have not been available. It might save your time, for instance, as you are obviously really busy. Thank you very much for that, because it is an issue for the Parliament going forward.

That is the main question that I had just now, convener; I might have some supplementaries to other folks’ questions later.