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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 16 February 2026
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Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Section 22 Report: “The 2024/25 audit of Historic Environment Scotland”

Meeting date: 4 February 2026

Joe FitzPatrick

So, it is mostly new members.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Section 22 Report: “The 2024/25 audit of Historic Environment Scotland”

Meeting date: 4 February 2026

Joe FitzPatrick

It is about getting that confidence, and one thing that is helpful for that is transparency. Are the board papers now being published? Are the minutes being published?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Section 22 Report: “The 2024/25 audit of the Scottish Government Consolidated Accounts”, and “Financial sustainability and taxes”

Meeting date: 4 February 2026

Joe FitzPatrick

I am slightly concerned about the line of questioning. Government ministers produce budgets, but the Parliament made a decision way back, when the idea of Social Security Scotland was first raised, that we wanted a social security system that was based on fairness and values, and that respected people as individuals. At that point, when the legislation was going through the Parliament, the decision was made that Social Security Scotland would be how we ensured that people who required benefits, particularly disability benefit, would be able to get them. Do you think that we are managing to achieve that aspiration and ensure that folk who require the disability benefit are able to get it, and that there might well be a gap in that respect, because, in the rest of the UK, people are not able to get the benefits that they require?

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Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Section 22 Report: “The 2024/25 audit of the Scottish Government Consolidated Accounts”, and “Financial sustainability and taxes”

Meeting date: 4 February 2026

Joe FitzPatrick

One of the challenges that we face, which I think the Scottish ministers have recognised, is the risk of behavioural change as we change tax levels in Scotland. We need to be mindful of that risk, and the Government has said likewise.

We are keen to understand what work is being done, so that the Government can understand what behavioural change is happening and what the risks are in that regard. Are more tools being developed to finesse the Government’s understanding as the tax policies in Scotland and the rest of the UK diverge?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Section 22 Report: “The 2024/25 audit of Historic Environment Scotland”

Meeting date: 4 February 2026

Joe FitzPatrick

It seems strange that a decision of such significance was able to be made without the approval of the board. Can the executive team still operate without the approval of the board at that level?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Section 22 Report: “The 2024/25 audit of Historic Environment Scotland”

Meeting date: 4 February 2026

Joe FitzPatrick

That is appreciated. However, from my perspective, and perhaps that of my colleagues, a large number of board members were not exercising their roles in the way that we would have hoped. Has there been additional training? Since you have come in and appointed two new members, have you made sure that the rest of the members of the board understand their responsibilities?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Section 22 Report: “The 2024/25 audit of Historic Environment Scotland”

Meeting date: 4 February 2026

Joe FitzPatrick

That is appreciated. It is helpful, and it will give more confidence to the organisation going forward and help it to be successful, which is what we all want. Thanks very much.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 3 February 2026

Joe FitzPatrick

I have a quick question about proxy voting. You probably heard the witnesses from COSLA, who were on the first panel, complaining that there was a lack of consultation on the proposals for proxy voting and saying that they were concerned that proxies would not be suitably experienced and trained. The witnesses on our second panel said that people with lived experience would expect their proxies to be suitably trained. First, can you address the consultation issue and, secondly, can you say whether there will be national guidance around what training and experience would be required for proxies?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 3 February 2026

Joe FitzPatrick

I will ask about proxies later, but first, looking at this from the perspective of those with lived experience, including third sector partners, it is clear that there are some integration boards where the experience of carers and third sector members of the board is really positive. They feel engaged and they feel involved. However, we know that that is not the case everywhere; in fact, that is the exception. In other integration boards, folk with lived experience feel that, because they are not voting members, they are not valued in the same way as the voting members. That is the problem. Without this legislation, how can we get to the point where, right across Scotland, those people with lived experience, including third sector partners, can feel that they are genuinely part of the decision-making processes that affect their lives so much?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 3 February 2026

Joe FitzPatrick

I want to focus on proxy voting. Matt Crilly has covered a bit already, but Paul Kelly and Stephen Smellie, do you want to say anything about your concerns on the proxy voting provisions?