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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 22 April 2025
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Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 November 2024

Bob Doris

That was helpful. Roz McCall, did you want to come in?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 November 2024

Bob Doris

Thank you, cabinet secretary—plug noted.

As there are no other questions, we move to agenda item 6, which is formal consideration of motion S6M-14591. I invite the cabinet secretary to speak to and move the motion.

Motion moved,

That the Social Justice and Social Security Committee recommends that the Funeral Expense Assistance (Scotland) Amendment Regulations 2024 [draft] be approved.—[Shirley-Anne Somerville]

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 November 2024

Bob Doris

The committee will report on the outcome of the instrument in due course. I invite the committee to delegate authority to our convener, if she returns in time, or otherwise to me, to approve the draft of any report for publication. Are members agreed?

Members indicated agreement.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 November 2024

Bob Doris

Thank you very much.

I thank the cabinet secretary and her officials for attending. As that concludes the public part of our meeting, we will move into private session to consider the remaining agenda items.

09:21 Meeting continued in private until 09:25.  

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 November 2024

Bob Doris

Thank you, cabinet secretary.

Before we move to agenda item 6, it is worth putting it on the record that the committee did a very brief inquiry into the Scottish child payment, and although we very much welcomed the positive impact that it was having, we identified the need for additional data, including on approaches to tackling child poverty being taken not only in Scotland but in England, and the need for a longitudinal study that would provide additional evidence on the benefits of the payment. I thought that this was an appropriate time to put that on the record, Ms Smith.

You do not have to give us your reflections on that, cabinet secretary, but you are welcome to respond if you wish.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 7 November 2024

Bob Doris

Good morning and welcome to the 29th meeting of the Social Justice and Social Security Committee in 2024. We have apologies from our convener, Collette Stevenson, and from Jeremy Balfour. I welcome Roz McCall, who is attending as a substitute for Jeremy Balfour. It is good to have her back.

Our first two agenda items were taken in private, so we move to item 3, which is to agree also to take agenda item 7 in private. Do members agree to do so?

Members indicated agreement.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 November 2024

Bob Doris

If no member wishes to make a contribution, I want to put one thing on the record in relation to a constituency interest of mine.

A lady called Julie Love started the Death Abroad—You’re Not Alone charity, which deals with the real financial strains and emotional turmoil faced by those who lose loved ones overseas. I am aware of individuals who have wished to repatriate bodies but have had to have the funerals overseas, because they could not afford the repatriation costs, and I would just like to highlight the general swirl that happens, not just in a financial sense but with regard to the need for a pathway to steer around.

Given that funeral expense assistance is starting to look at supporting those who have lost loved ones overseas, it would be helpful—not as part of this statutory instrument, of course—if some cross-cutting work on the issue could be carried out between Social Security Scotland and perhaps the Scottish Government justice directorate, which I know has looked at the matter previously, based on points raised not just by me, but by Hannah Bardell, when she was an MP, and by Angela Constance before she returned to the post of Cabinet Secretary for Justice.

I wanted to put that on the record, because there seems to be a connection between providing funeral assistance to those who lose loved ones overseas and how we support them more widely. I will say no more than that, but given this opportunity for a brief debate, I wanted to put some of that on the record.

As no other members wish to contribute, I ask the cabinet secretary to sum up and to respond to the debate, if she so wishes.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 November 2024

Bob Doris

I think that my colleagues will return to that imminently.

The bill is apparently silent on whether those who report breaches will be granted anonymity within the process. Is there a risk that groups or organisations that have to work daily or routinely with large landowners might be deterred from reporting breaches or raising concerns if anonymity is not secured? Do you have any thoughts on that?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 November 2024

Bob Doris

You were nodding your head, Dr Doble, but the Official Report will not capture a nodding of the head—sorry.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 November 2024

Bob Doris

Is the £5,000 figure about right, or is it too limited?