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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 21 April 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 December 2024

Bob Doris

That was very helpful.

Section 2 relates to the community right to buy and registration of interest in large landholdings. Some of my initial questions have partly been answered in the earlier questioning, when we were wrestling with whether 1,000 hectares was a sufficient threshold in this area. The only thing that I would state as an urban MSP is that, in that context, the concept of hectares becomes a little bit meaningless. For example, in my constituency, Glasgow botanic gardens cover 20 hectares, so 1,000 hectares is 50 times the size of the gardens and, to be fair, seems huge when put in that context.

Do you have any other brief additional comments about whether 1,000 hectares is an appropriate threshold? If you just want to restate your position and what the threshold should be, as arbitrary as it all is, that would be helpful. Otherwise, I will move on to my next line of questioning.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 December 2024

Bob Doris

I think that you have made your point pretty well, Mr Wightman, and I am cutting you off only for brevity. I get the point that you are making. I think that there are pre-notification requirements as well as late notification requirements.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 December 2024

Bob Doris

I thank Mr Peacock for saving us time, because that was my only other question in this section.

I will just check with Andy Wightman before I go on to Laurie Macfarlane—do you agree with Mr Peacock’s suggestion?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 December 2024

Bob Doris

Right, okay, that view is very clear, Mr Wightman.

Laurie Macfarlane, I am not sure whether this is a job creation scheme or not, but perhaps you can give your views on that suggestion from Mr Peacock, and about the threshold.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 December 2024

Bob Doris

Mr Linklater, I know that I said that that was my final question, but this one is just for you. Does that maybe provide a rationale for land management plans and community consultation? If they are done properly, ethically, appropriately and professionally, the landowner will work collegiately to build up relationships with those communities and build capacity. Is that potentially a positive outcome of a good-quality land management plan?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 December 2024

Bob Doris

I would presume so. We can clarify that, but I think that it is self-evident from the legislation that the community should be involved in the consultation process.

I will leave it there. Perhaps that is something that the committee will have to return to.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 December 2024

Bob Doris

That was helpful. If SEPA were aware of environmental damage, it would not wait for a formal complaint to investigate that—it would just get on and do that. There are precedents in that respect across the public sector.

Does Laurie Macfarlane have any thoughts on that?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 December 2024

Bob Doris

Yes.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 December 2024

Bob Doris

So your view is that there should be no threshold.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 December 2024

Bob Doris

All right, thank you.

Finally, Magnus Linklater, you have mentioned the word “bureaucracy” a few times in relation to a lot of this. The more I hear from Mr Wightman about his views, the more I wonder whether there is a meeting of minds, perhaps unintentionally, about some of this. What are your thoughts?