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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 21 April 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 December 2024

Bob Doris

That is helpful.

I will bring in the other witnesses shortly but, given that you have a different view, Martin Hall, and that you spoke relatively briefly in relation to reviewing some of the arrangements in principle, how would you respond to some of the concerns that Hamish has put on the record this morning?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 December 2024

Bob Doris

What you are saying is that that should be attended to; in other words, it should not be allowed to happen without more significant compensation for the tenant.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 December 2024

Bob Doris

I will hear Mr Wood and finally Mr Oates.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 17 December 2024

Bob Doris

I am grateful to you for putting that on the record—I do not think that that was particularly teased out during the session, so I thank you for that.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 December 2024

Bob Doris

I am going to let everyone have one more cut at this, if that is okay, convener, because this is quite an important part of the legislation.

Mr Lean, you talked about unintended consequences in relation to some of this stuff and how they might disincentivise landowners from leasing. Do you have any further comments on that, after what we have heard? I want to capture the views of all the witnesses on this particular section, because the committee then has to reflect on them.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 December 2024

Bob Doris

I thank all four witnesses for helping me to get my head around that complex area in the bill. I have no further questions at this time.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 December 2024

Bob Doris

Yes, I think that that point was in your written evidence. I have no further questions on that.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 December 2024

Bob Doris

That was a maybe, was it not? [Laughter.]

Mr Thin, do you have any comments on that?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 December 2024

Bob Doris

I have explored this issue with other witnesses over the past few weeks. I want to turn the whole thing on its head slightly. I will put to one side for a moment the issue of how the role of a land and communities commissioner would sit with the Land Commission more generally.

On who conveys a complaint and whether they would then investigate the complaint, any commissioner would surely have to take a sample-size survey of all land management plans across the country, whether it was 10, 15 or 20—pick a number, I suppose—and then delve into the quality of those plans and general compliance with them in order to have the expertise to, say, share best practice across the country or identify thematic issues. With regard to a specific breach, surely a commissioner should have a discretionary power to investigate and, if we beef up compliance in the act, to take compliance action accordingly.

I have been asking witnesses about that more general picture in the past few evidence sessions. I am consistent, if nothing else, so I am keen to know witnesses’ views this morning. Mr Campbell, what is your view on my suggestion?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 December 2024

Bob Doris

That is very helpful. I did not know that there is a Scottish land matching service. I have learned something, which is always important when we scrutinise legislation.

To go back to land management plans, on reflection, having heard what you have said, Gary, I wonder whether there should be an obligation for land management plans to consider potential future diversification over, for example, 10 years, which the deputy convener spoke about, rather than five years. Land could be screened for its suitability as a crofting venture, irrespective of whether that is in the strategic interest of the landowner. Could that be done when the land management plan is drawn up? Theoretically, that could provide a significant amount of additional land for people who go to the Scottish land matching service because they quite fancy establishing a croft. They could then watch out for future lotting arrangements and declare an interest.

I am trying to work out how we make sense of it in a way that would make a practical difference through the policy that you would like to see propagated. Do you have any reflections on that, Gary?