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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 8 January 2026
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Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Homelessness and Temporary Accommodation

Meeting date: 1 February 2024

Bob Doris

I think that the committee would welcome a note on that.

Finally, Mr McBride, when I was speaking to people from Mears, I put it to them that we should be talking about permanent accommodation from day 1 of an asylum seeker family moving to the city. That means providing permanent accommodation, perhaps in Glasgow or in one of the other 31 local authorities across Scotland, and doing constructive work with them. Mears told me that it is not allowed to do that work. Is that a missed opportunity? Is that something that we have to do more of?

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Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Homelessness and Temporary Accommodation

Meeting date: 1 February 2024

Bob Doris

Can I push you slightly further on that, Mr Smith? I am not trying to box clever here. There will undoubtedly be an impact, and that impact will not be beneficial in the slightest. I get that. Is the impact that you are talking about a revenue budget impact as opposed to an impact of the capital cut? I am trying to get at what the short-term impact is likely to be of the capital cut. Once you have answered that, I will bring in Mr MacRae, because I imagine that Shelter Scotland will have strong views on the issue.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Homelessness and Temporary Accommodation

Meeting date: 1 February 2024

Bob Doris

I asked Mr Smith whether there is a cut to the capital budget in the coming financial year. Mr Smith has perhaps cited consequences for less revenue support, and those are two different budget streams, I understand. I genuinely just want Mr Smith to put on the record what the short-term impact is likely to be of the cut to the Scottish budget in capital terms rather than revenue terms. If I have misunderstood Mr Smith, I apologise.

Mr Smith, do you want to add anything before Mr MacRae comes in?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Homelessness and Temporary Accommodation

Meeting date: 1 February 2024

Bob Doris

Thank you.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Homelessness and Temporary Accommodation

Meeting date: 1 February 2024

Bob Doris

Yes. I thought that it was quite an important point to make, convener.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Social Security Scotland

Meeting date: 1 February 2024

Bob Doris

Will that be done proportionately and respectfully, and will it be a reasonable request to make of the client?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Social Security Scotland

Meeting date: 1 February 2024

Bob Doris

It is a minute supplementary, convener, and it was inspired by your own question.

The convener asked about systems improvements that are prioritised. We have a large workforce in Social Security Scotland, a lot of whom moved over from the DWP and took the opportunity to put in place new innovations. What role does the workforce have in suggesting innovations and systems improvements? After all, they are the ones who are at the coalface and who have to deal with the reality of how the systems work. Anything you can put on the record about that would be quite helpful.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Homelessness and Temporary Accommodation

Meeting date: 1 February 2024

Bob Doris

I will direct the first part of my question to Jim McBride, but I appreciate that Nicky Brown might also want to come in, given his opening statement.

Before Christmas, I had a briefing from Glasgow City Council on the housing emergency that has been declared, specifically about the streamlining of the asylum process in the city. I also had a briefing from Mears at that time. I was told that roughly 580 to 600 households that had had a positive decision from the UK asylum process had overstayed in their Mears tenancy and were imminently going to be pushed into the Glasgow homelessness system, with many hundreds—perhaps thousands—to follow. Could Mr McBride tell us where we are now and the pressures that that has put on the system in Glasgow?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Homelessness and Temporary Accommodation

Meeting date: 1 February 2024

Bob Doris

I will not come back in, convener, but Nicky Brown might want to put some comments on the record.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Homelessness and Temporary Accommodation

Meeting date: 1 February 2024

Bob Doris

To follow on from Mr McBride’s comments about the acquisition programme, I know from my casework that Maryhill Housing Association is very active in tracking potential properties in the private sector and making direct efforts to get homeless families housed in those properties. It would be helpful for the committee to write to Glasgow City Council to find out how that is mapped out across the city and what the numbers are looking like per housing association, particularly—funnily enough—in the Maryhill and Springburn constituency. That would be helpful. I have put that in now, Mr McBride.

I want to ask a budgetary question. We know that the Scottish Government is still committed to delivering 110,000 new affordable homes by 2031 and £3.5 billion of investment over the course of the current parliamentary session. I know that there is a separate debate about whether that amount was sufficient, but that comes down to politicians who have to set budgets.

We note that the Scottish Government’s capital budget has been slashed by the UK Government, but the Scottish Government has also cut its own affordable housing supply budget. I will not get drawn into the politics of that, but what is the short-term impact of that on homelessness? If the same money is spent over the course of the parliamentary session, will that have a longer-term impact? There will be a short-term impact, but will there also be a longer-term impact if the same amount of money is spent over the course of the parliamentary session?

I suppose that it would make sense to direct that question to Gavin Smith, who can offer an ALACHO perspective.