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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 10 July 2025
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Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Stuart McMillan

On the small vessel replacement programme, the consideration is 60 per cent quality and 40 per cent price—

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Stuart McMillan

Absolutely.

Clearly, best value is not about what is going to be the cheapest; it is about—

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Stuart McMillan

When it comes to investment and what you want to do going forward, what are the initial steps? Are you at liberty to indicate what the £9 million would be invested in? Would it be in plant?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Stuart McMillan

Mr Irwin, do you want to comment?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Stuart McMillan

It is positive to hear that. I am quite sure that the workforce and the local community will be delighted to hear that.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Stuart McMillan

Let me pose the question first.

I genuinely think that it would be useful to get an absolute timeline of events. The Audit Scotland report states that

“The investigation identified that the former chief executive approved the ... payments without the knowledge of the board or the remuneration committee”.

However, according to what is in the Official Report of the NZET Committee meeting, there was an actual written formal agreement. If there was a formal agreement between CMAL and Ferguson’s, I do not understand why the Audit Scotland report would say what it has said. It also does not seem to tie in totally with what Mr Tydeman has said.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Stuart McMillan

That would be helpful. Thank you.

On the future of the yard, Mr Petticrew and I have had a number of discussions in the past and I think that we share the same view on the yard’s past, present and future.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Stuart McMillan

Thank you very much, convener. Thanks, too, for the build-up earlier.

I want a couple of points to be clarified before I get into the main thrust of my line of questioning. At a meeting of the NZET Committee in early January, Jim Anderson spoke about a lessons learned document that was to be published by the end of January. This morning, there was some dialogue about documents. Is that the same document, or are they separate? Clearly, the lessons learned from the MV Glen Sannox and the MV Glen Rosa projects are hugely important.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Stuart McMillan

If possible, yes.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Stuart McMillan

Yes. That is helpful.

My second question goes back to the points about Mr Tydeman. At the same meeting of the NZET Committee, at column 37 in the Official Report, Kevin Hobbs was asked questions regarding the agreement to second Andy Crossan to Ferguson’s. Mr Hobbs referenced you, Mr Dishon, and said that you questioned him. We have information in the section 22 report, from paragraph 29 onwards, as well as the information from Mr Tydeman, which was touched on earlier, in which he says that the arrangement was

“approved by the chairman ... at the time.”

I accept that that was not you, Mr Miller.