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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 20 April 2025
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Public Audit Committee

Interests

Meeting date: 9 January 2025

Stuart McMillan

First of all, thank you for the kind words and welcome.

I have two things that would be useful to put on the record. First, I chair Moving On Inverclyde, which is a recovery service that is in receipt of public money. Secondly, as I have indicated in the past in the chamber, my wife works part time for CalMac Ferries—I declare that for when CalMac and ferry issues arise in the committee.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of the Water Industry Commission for Scotland”

Meeting date: 9 January 2025

Stuart McMillan

Thank you.

Regarding the 2007 contract and the legal advice that the board received—as with the convener’s question, you may not be able to answer this—did you find any information or explanation why the contract was not signed but was allowed to sit there until the end point was reached and the chief executive left?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of the Water Industry Commission for Scotland”

Meeting date: 9 January 2025

Stuart McMillan

That is helpful—thank you.

The report states:

“It is critical that all parties, Board members, senior management, staff and the sponsor team, work together to move the Commission into a stronger place in delivering its regulatory role while ensuring Best Value in the use of its resources.”

With those comments in mind, to what extent have the issues that you have reported on at WICS—and the efforts that have been required to address those issues—impacted on its ability to perform its regulatory role?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of the Water Industry Commission for Scotland”

Meeting date: 9 January 2025

Stuart McMillan

It is fair to say that, given that the situation was unclear, the onus was on the board to clarify the position before moving forward with the contract.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of the Water Industry Commission for Scotland”

Meeting date: 9 January 2025

Stuart McMillan

I will move on to questions about the leadership and culture of the organisation. The report was interesting reading, to say the least—it took me back to reports that I was involved in when I was a member of this committee in the past, such as those on NHS Western Isles and Coatbridge College. Are you content that WICS is taking sufficient action to address the issues relating to staff wellbeing?

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee [Draft]

Framework Legislation and Henry VIII Powers

Meeting date: 7 January 2025

Stuart McMillan

Under agenda item 5, we are taking evidence on the committee’s inquiry into framework legislation and Henry VIII powers.

The witnesses on our first panel are Dr Ruth Fox, joining us online, who is the director of the Hansard Society; Dr Dexter Govan, who is the director of research at the Constitution Society; Dr Pablo Grez, who is a lecturer in public law at the University of Strathclyde; Professor Colin Reid, who is emeritus professor of environmental law at the University of Dundee; Dr Andrew Tickell, who is the head of department for economics and law at Glasgow Caledonian University; and Professor Richard Whitaker, who is parliamentary academic fellow at the University of Leicester. I welcome you all.

I remind all witnesses not to worry about the microphones, because they will be dealt with automatically. If you would like to come in on a question, please raise your hand or indicate to the clerks. There is no need to answer every question—just indicate if it is not for you. If, after the meeting, there is anything that you feel that you have not said on the record that you would like to contact the committee about, please feel free to do so.

We have received a number of submissions from today’s witnesses and others. It is fair to say that it has been quite interesting to read about a subject that most folk would probably think is quite dry. However, as you will be aware, it is a subject that comes up from time to time in the work of this committee.

Among those who have submitted evidence to the committee, there appears to be a broad consensus on what framework legislation is. Do you think that there should be a definition of framework legislation agreed by the Scottish Government and the Scottish Parliament?

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Framework Legislation and Henry VIII Powers

Meeting date: 7 January 2025

Stuart McMillan

To clarify, is the need to do something, which you touched on, because of political pressure?

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Instruments not subject to Parliamentary Procedure

Meeting date: 7 January 2025

Stuart McMillan

I will briefly suspend to allow witnesses to join the meeting.

09:32 Meeting suspended.  

09:33 On resuming—  

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Framework Legislation and Henry VIII Powers

Meeting date: 7 January 2025

Stuart McMillan

Is there anything that you would like to add, Professor Reid?

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Framework Legislation and Henry VIII Powers

Meeting date: 7 January 2025

Stuart McMillan

Unless there are any final questions, I thank our witnesses very much for their time. The session has been very helpful for us. If there are any further concerns or things that you have not said on the record that you would like to raise, please write to the committee. We will produce a report in due course, and we will send it to you.

That concludes the public part of the meeting.

12:11 Meeting continued in private until 12:39.