Skip to main content
Loading…

Seòmar agus comataidhean

Official Report: search what was said in Parliament

The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

Criathragan Hide all filters

Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 12 March 2026
Select which types of business to include


Select level of detail in results

Displaying 2510 contributions

|

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee [Draft]

Minister for Parliamentary Business and Veterans

Meeting date: 28 October 2025

Stuart McMillan

Under agenda item 5, we are taking evidence from Graeme Dey MSP, the Minister for Parliamentary Business and Veterans. This is one of our regular sessions with the minister on the aspects of Scottish Government work that are relevant to the committee. I welcome the minister back to his role and to the committee.

The minister is accompanied by three Scottish Government officials: Steven MacGregor, head of the Parliament and legislation unit; Claire Trail, SSI and UK legislation team leader; and Douglas Kerr, deputy legislation co-ordinator in the Scottish Government legal department. I welcome them all to the meeting and remind them not to worry about the microphones, which are controlled by our broadcasting colleagues and will come on automatically.

I invite the minister to make some opening remarks.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee [Draft]

Minister for Parliamentary Business and Veterans

Meeting date: 28 October 2025

Stuart McMillan

That was helpful. Thank you.

On a related matter, an unusual issue has arisen in recent months with amending instruments that have not addressed all the issues that the Scottish Government undertook to correct, and which have actually introduced further problems. You have already touched on the overarching checking process, but does that also cover this type of situation, in which something that has already come to the committee, and which we have highlighted, has had to go back to the Government to be looked at again? Is there a separate process for that?

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee [Draft]

Instrument subject to Affirmative Procedure

Meeting date: 28 October 2025

Stuart McMillan

Under agenda item 2, we are considering one instrument, on which no points have been raised.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee [Draft]

Instruments subject to Negative Procedure

Meeting date: 28 October 2025

Stuart McMillan

Is the committee content with the reasons provided for the failure to comply with the laying requirements?

Members indicated agreement.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee [Draft]

Instruments subject to Negative Procedure

Meeting date: 28 October 2025

Stuart McMillan

Also under this agenda item, no issues have been raised on the following instrument.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee [Draft]

Minister for Parliamentary Business and Veterans

Meeting date: 28 October 2025

Stuart McMillan

Indeed. I am just considering that element. Ms Trail touched a moment ago on the timescales of bills, and the LCMs, that might be coming forward, but could the Parliament end up in the position of not being able to scrutinise some of that legislation at all?

10:45  

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee [Draft]

Draft Laid for Consultation

Meeting date: 28 October 2025

Stuart McMillan

Is the committee content with the proposed draft order?

Members indicated agreement.

10:04 Meeting suspended.  

10:05 On resuming—  

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee [Draft]

Minister for Parliamentary Business and Veterans

Meeting date: 28 October 2025

Stuart McMillan

Thank you for that, minister. I fully appreciate your point regarding detail and am relaxed about that.

You touched on the report that the committee published regarding the first quarter of this year. For the record, the committee has identified a lot more issues in SSIs over recent months, with 28 per cent of instruments considered between 13 May and 8 September being reported. One key thing for the committee was that we found 30 individual issues in just six of those reported instruments, including some quite serious issues of potentially defective drafting. So, notwithstanding the comments that you just made, are you concerned by the increase in the number of issues being identified?

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee [Draft]

Minister for Parliamentary Business and Veterans

Meeting date: 28 October 2025

Stuart McMillan

That is helpful. I will pick up on one of the points, which was the technical nature of the SSIs. I do not doubt in any way, shape or form that they are technical, but I probably do not fully support your argument, to be quite honest, because I am sure that we all recognise that the vast majority of legislation is technical in nature anyway.

You touched on the requirement to provide additional information to drafters. Can you elaborate a bit more on that? In the past, the committee has tried to improve its understanding of the process that takes place when SSIs are drafted. Two or three years ago, some changes were put in place, so I am keen to flesh out where we are with those.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee [Draft]

Minister for Parliamentary Business and Veterans

Meeting date: 28 October 2025

Stuart McMillan

On that point, has there been much staff turnover in the department, or have staff numbers remained fairly stable both over this quarter and before?