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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 13 July 2025
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Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Made Affirmative Procedure Inquiry

Meeting date: 11 January 2022

Bill Kidd

We move to agenda item 3. Today, we are taking evidence from John Swinney, the Deputy First Minister and Cabinet Secretary for Covid Recovery, as part of the committee’s inquiry into use of the made affirmative procedure during the coronavirus pandemic.

The Deputy First Minister is accompanied by three Scottish Government officials: Rachel Rayner, deputy legislation co-ordinator, Scottish Government legal directorate; Elizabeth Blair, unit head, Covid co-ordination; and Steven Macgregor, head of the Parliament and legislation unit. I welcome you all to the meeting. We are very grateful that you are able to attend virtually today. I remind all attendees not to worry about turning on their microphones during the session, as they are controlled by broadcasting.

In a moment, I will invite the Deputy First Minister to make some opening remarks. The procedure will be slightly different today, as we have agreed that each member will ask a series of questions, to be followed by another member and so on. There will not be so much back and forwards as normal—members will ask a run of questions.

The first member to ask questions is Graham Simpson. Oh, I beg your pardon—I am too excited. Deputy First Minister, would you like to make some opening remarks?

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Made Affirmative Procedure Inquiry

Meeting date: 11 January 2022

Bill Kidd

I will let Graham Simpson in for one last word.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Made Affirmative Procedure Inquiry

Meeting date: 11 January 2022

Bill Kidd

Thank you, Mr Simpson. We move to questions from Craig Hoy.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Made Affirmative Procedure Inquiry

Meeting date: 11 January 2022

Bill Kidd

Rachel Rayner’s name has been mentioned. Would you care to make a contribution?

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Made Affirmative Procedure Inquiry

Meeting date: 11 January 2022

Bill Kidd

I think that we have reached our next stage. I thank the Deputy First Minister and his officials Elizabeth Blair, Steven Macgregor and especially on this occasion, Rachel Rayner, who made some helpful comments. I thank you all for your helpful evidence.

As has been suggested, the committee might follow up by letter with any additional questions that stem from the meeting. Will that be acceptable, Deputy First Minister?

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Instruments subject to Made Affirmative Procedure

Meeting date: 11 January 2022

Bill Kidd

The clerks will put the result on the BlueJeans chat function, because that is the correct procedure, and I will then read it out.

Meanwhile, I can say that no points have been raised on SSIs 2021/465 and 2021/477. Is the committee content with those instruments? Members are content. That is fine, thank you.

The result of the division on SSIs 2021/475, 2021/496, 2021/497 and 2021/498 is: For 2, Against 3, Abstentions 0.

Therefore, we are not agreed.

I thank members for that, and I thank the clerking team for putting up with my procedure.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Instruments subject to Negative Procedure

Meeting date: 11 January 2022

Bill Kidd

No points have been raised on the instruments. Is the committee content with the instruments?

No member has indicated that they are not content or that they wish to speak, so we are agreed.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Instruments not subject to Parliamentary Procedure

Meeting date: 11 January 2022

Bill Kidd

Also under agenda item 7—I jumped ahead too quickly—no points have been raised on the following four instruments.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Made Affirmative Procedure Inquiry

Meeting date: 11 January 2022

Bill Kidd

Thank you very much, Deputy First Minister, and thanks very much to Craig Hoy. My computer fell out for a bit, so I missed some of the excitement of the past 20 minutes. We can move on now to Paul Sweeney.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Made Affirmative Procedure Inquiry

Meeting date: 11 January 2022

Bill Kidd

Deputy First Minister, if you want to bring any of your officials in at any point, you are at liberty to do so.