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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 16 September 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Education Reform

Meeting date: 8 November 2023

Bill Kidd

What are the panel’s views on how structural reform of the Scottish Qualifications Authority and Education Scotland will support better outcomes for children and young people? I do not mean this in the wrong way, but it is really supposed to be about children and young people rather than the process itself. How will that deliver?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Education Reform

Meeting date: 8 November 2023

Bill Kidd

He was just agreeing with what I said; that was all.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Education Reform

Meeting date: 8 November 2023

Bill Kidd

When I attended school, I learned one thing, which was to listen to what people are saying. I have heard a great deal of what you are saying, but I am still going to ask my questions, because we are in the Scottish Parliament and we need to have a bit of talk about politics and how it is handled. We know about the roles of national Government and local government in supporting policy change in education and even driving it. How would the panel suggest balancing those traditional, top-down implementation processes with more bottom-up approaches? I know that a bit of that has been covered already, but how do you think that the two might be mixed together?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Education Reform

Meeting date: 8 November 2023

Bill Kidd

Is there a danger of throwing the baby out with the bath water if we change it too radically, too quickly?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Education Reform

Meeting date: 8 November 2023

Bill Kidd

No. That is fine. Thank you very much for that.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 November 2023

Bill Kidd

Okay—thank you for that.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 November 2023

Bill Kidd

Thank you.

Following on from that, under section 49(1), the Scottish ministers will have powers to intervene. Section 49 provides that the Scottish ministers may establish by regulations a body with a view to its becoming a category 1 regulator. The section also specifies circumstances under which the Scottish ministers may directly authorise and regulate legal business. The bill states that ministers must obtain the consent of the Lord President before making such regulations and, even then, may make them only if they believe that doing so is necessary as a last resort.

Again, stakeholders have called for the removal of the provision, asserting that it interferes with the rule of law and threatens the independence of the legal profession, which is quite a serious issue. What are your reflections on those assertions? Is the Scottish Government considering removing the provision? If not, is it considering making an amendment to it?

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 November 2023

Bill Kidd

Thank you—that is comprehensive. Are you still in talks with the Law Society over the issue, given the questions that it has raised?

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 November 2023

Bill Kidd

On that basis, although Scottish Government ministers would be making an intervention, that would be to redirect the powers to the Lord President. Is that correct?

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 November 2023

Bill Kidd

Thank you for your responses so far, minister. I want to ask a question about making changes to regulatory functions.

Paragraph 23 of schedule 2 provides that where a regulator has acted or failed to act in a way that has had, or is likely to have, an adverse impact on the observance of any of the regulatory objectives, and the matter cannot be addressed adequately by the Scottish ministers taking any of the measures mentioned in the bill, such as setting performance targets or imposing a financial penalty, the Scottish ministers may make regulations to change or remove some or all of the functions of the regulator. That sounds quite dramatic. Additional requirements must be met before such regulations may be made, including sharing them with consultees and laying them in draft before the Scottish Parliament.

Stakeholders who appeared before the committee have suggested that schedule 2 should be deleted in its entirety, given that they are also calling for the deletion of section 20, to which schedule 2 relates. Do you have any further reflections on the matter?