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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 3 February 2026
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Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 27 January 2026

Patrick Harvie

Not that finger pointing takes us anywhere.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 27 January 2026

Patrick Harvie

Thank you.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Fiscal Commission

Meeting date: 27 January 2026

Patrick Harvie

I want to briefly follow up on the impartiality point. When it comes to what impartiality means, I imagine that you face a similar challenge to the one that most of the media face. To some, it means treating all opinions with equal respect, whereas others would say that impartiality means calling out falsehoods and not treating every opinion as equally valid. Do you feel that part of your role in being impartial is to proactively call out falsehoods when they are made?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Finance (No 2) Bill

Meeting date: 27 January 2026

Patrick Harvie

Can I be clear that I understand the level of flexibility that is being offered to Scotland in this regard? A future Scottish Government would have the option, if it was so minded, of charging rental profits at a lower rate of income tax or at a higher rate of income tax than presently—higher or lower than elsewhere in the UK, or higher or lower than other forms of income? Is that correct?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Finance (No 2) Bill

Meeting date: 27 January 2026

Patrick Harvie

So, if a person has a good level of income from employment but it is not enough to reach the additional rate of tax, but they also have enough property income that their total income would reach it, a future Scottish Government would be able to say that it is all income, so it will be taken together and they will pay the additional rate on their income, or it would be able to say that property income should be taxed at a higher rate and we would have a system that makes that distinction.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 27 January 2026

Patrick Harvie

I suggest that the situation goes significantly beyond what you are describing there. There are always ways in which parts of the public sector can improve what they do, whether they be administrative, technological or anything else. It is a bit like preventative spending—we have to spend a bit of money up front to make some of those changes. We do not simply spend less money by doing things differently. Quite often, we spend more in the short term by making those changes. The situation that councils are facing now surely means that some of their core statutory duties are at fundamental risk. Have you had warnings about that from COSLA or from anyone else?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 27 January 2026

Patrick Harvie

The cabinet secretary spoke about some of the pressures that differ for different local authorities and drew particular attention to smaller local authorities where scale is an issue, but I will mention an issue that is facing some of our biggest authorities. I think that you are already aware of the extreme pressures on homelessness services. Those pressures result partly from progressive legislation on homelessness, which most of us in this Parliament strongly support, but also from changes in the asylum system that are beyond the control of local government, this Parliament and your Government. As a result of a combination of those factors, some local authorities are seeing unprecedented levels of pressure that will not only make politically unconscionable cuts to discretionary spending inevitable but threaten core statutory duties, for councils and for integration joint boards and health and social care services.

Earlier, you talked about the spending review and the idea that, as the UK Government approaches the next election, it will not want to do politically unpopular things that cut local government. Are you not in exactly the same situation right now? Your party is in administration in Scotland and in several significant councils that are facing those severe pressures. Is there not clearly a need for some way of addressing those specific, extreme pressures that have arisen, the reasons for which may be outwith council control or your control but which are going to make politically unconscionable choices inevitable at local government level in the immediate future?

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Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 27 January 2026

Patrick Harvie

What do we do about it?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Fiscal Commission

Meeting date: 27 January 2026

Patrick Harvie

That is the case despite the fact that much of what local government does—whether we are talking about the way that local government tax setting gets interfered with by central Government or the fact that the nature of its services is often defined by central Government—is a consequence of decisions by the Scottish Government, albeit that they play out at local level.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Finance (No 2) Bill

Meeting date: 27 January 2026

Patrick Harvie

That is not a position that you would expect me to support, but the flexibility is there.