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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 14 July 2025
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Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee [Draft]

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Jackson Carlaw

Not that that is unique.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee [Draft]

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Jackson Carlaw

Can we reserve that option and seek an expedited response?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee [Draft]

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Jackson Carlaw

It is a badge of honour of this committee that we do not let ministers off the hook.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee [Draft]

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Jackson Carlaw

PE1988, which was lodged by Sue Wallis, calls on the Scottish Parliament to urge the Scottish Government to review the process for allowing raw sewage discharge from homes into coastal waters, to provide additional funding to the Scottish Environment Protection Agency for enforcement and to introduce legislation to ban households from discharging raw sewage. We last considered the petition at our meeting on 30 October 2024, when we agreed to write to the Scottish Government. Its response states that water, waste water and drainage policy consultation is being used to inform its policy development process throughout 2025.

We asked the Scottish Government about SEPA’s purpose to improve the health and wellbeing of people in Scotland, as set out in the Regulatory Reform (Scotland) Act 2014. The response states that the general purpose provides for a clear hierarchy that acknowledges the three elements of sustainable development, but that primacy is to be given to protecting and improving the environment. The Scottish Government states that it is content that SEPA has sufficient resources to apply its approach to regulation and principles across all its functions, as well as its enforcement policy.

The petitioner’s written submission shares her understanding that SEPA has the powers to prosecute for unrepaired pipes but has not done so because of concern that it will become too expensive to pursue. Under the current approach of contacting home owners about changing outfall pipe systems, she points out that there is no follow-up action to check that the required work has been done. The petitioner calls for a review of how SEPA staff monitor direct outfall pipes for homes in Scotland and believes that the Scottish Government should ask SEPA to explain why there have been no prosecutions arising from raw sewage discharges from broken outfall pipes.

Do any members wish to comment in the light of the Scottish Government’s response and/or the petitioner’s response?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee [Draft]

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Jackson Carlaw

Are committee members content to accept that proposal?

Members indicated agreement.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee [Draft]

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Jackson Carlaw

Yes—that is probably absolutely correct. We are reluctantly having to move in this direction, but having brought the work together through the health boards, I think that it would be useful to make the Scottish Government and the minister aware of that fact.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee [Draft]

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Jackson Carlaw

PE2095 seeks to improve the public consultation processes for energy infrastructure projects. The petition calls on the Scottish Parliament to urge the Scottish Government to review and seek to update section 3.2 of the energy consents unit’s “Good Practice Guidance for Applications under Section 36 and 37 of the Electricity Act 1989” document to address the concerns of communities about the lack of meaningful, responsible and robust voluntary and pre-application consultation by transmission operators on energy infrastructure projects, and to explore all available levers to strengthen community liaison and public participation for the lifecycle of energy infrastructure projects.

We last considered the petition on 11 September 2024, when we agreed to write to the Acting Minister for Climate Action, the Office of Gas and Electricity Markets and the National Energy System Operator.

I should have said that the petition was lodged by Margaret Smith, who I understand is with us in the public gallery.

In its response, Ofgem underlines that planning consultation does not lie within its remit. Development of the options, scope, design, planning and delivery of projects are the responsibility of the relevant transmission owner, NESO and other relevant authorities, prior to Ofgem’s final decision on cost efficiency. However, Ofgem’s expectation is for transmission owners to engage effectively with local communities, and it states that stakeholders who are interested in infrastructure projects are welcome to submit responses to any relevant Ofgem consultations on efficient funding for transmission projects.

The response from NESO indicates that it balances any proposed new network infrastructure against four high-level objectives, one of which is the impact on communities. While NESO puts forward a recommendation, it is the responsibility of the transmission operator, at the next stage of project development, to decide on potential route corridors and types of infrastructure to use. NESO’s expectation is that operators will consult with local communities and planning authorities on the proposals.

The response from the Acting Minister for Climate Action highlights that a joint review that was undertaken by the UK and Scottish Governments has concluded, with a consultation expected to launch. He states that proposals include a statutory pre-application community and stakeholder engagement process, which would apply to all transmission infrastructure projects. That consultation was launched, and has closed, since the minister’s response was sent in October last year, so it is now historical.

The minister also refers to some additional Scottish Government work on developing guidance for pre-application engagement with communities. The minister says that the Government aims to engage with communities on their views before the guidance is finalised. At the time of the minister’s response, which was whenever, that work had just started.

We are joined by two of our parliamentary colleagues: Tess White, who is a veteran of the committee in the early months of this parliamentary session, and Douglas Lumsden. I know that you would both like to say a few words to the committee, which would be gratefully received, although it is not a speech to the chamber. Have you tossed a coin as to which of the two of you feels that they would like to speak first?

You have nominated yourself, Ms White.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee [Draft]

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Jackson Carlaw

You can put that in the form of a statement rather than a question, because our colleagues are not here to act as witnesses.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee [Draft]

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Jackson Carlaw

No, no—it is okay. I am sure that you are, but that would lead us down the route of goodness-knows-what precedent; I would have every MSP turning up at the committee.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee [Draft]

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Jackson Carlaw

PE2103, which was lodged by Dr Julie Badcock, was last considered on 9 October 2024, when we agreed to write to the Cabinet Secretary for Education and Skills. The response highlights the decision to freeze learning hours across Scotland and the agreement of Falkirk Council to withdraw its proposal to reduce learning hours in the area for the financial year 2025-26. The response states that the Scottish ministers will work with local Government on proposals to establish a statutory minimum number of learning hours and to understand the definition of a learning hour and the impact of that ambition on councils that currently provide a lower number of learning hours.

Do members have any suggestions for how to act?