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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 22 April 2025
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Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 25 September 2024

Jackson Carlaw

The difficulty that we have is that the Government is making plain that it proposes to bring forward the legislation before the end of the session, which is the aim of the petition.

Mr Ewing, do you have any thoughts?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 25 September 2024

Jackson Carlaw

Yes. Are there any other comments? Are colleagues agreed? I think that that is the position we are in. The Government has made various commitments as to what it plans to do, but it has set the timeline as being the end of the parliamentary session, which limits our ability to progress things, given that it has said and will continue to say that that is its intention. However, if we find that that is not happening, there will be a new petitions committee sitting here at the start of the next session and any fresh petition, of course, can refer to the current one and the work that was done. I hope that we will have achieved the ambitions of the petition but, if we have not, a fresh petition could be raised at that time.

I am not comfortable with that, but I am not sure, given our ability to act, that there is any more that I can positively see us doing at this stage.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 25 September 2024

Jackson Carlaw

PE1982, which was lodged by Gary McKay, calls on the Scottish Parliament to urge the Scottish Government to review the funding that is provided to the Royal Conservatoire of Scotland to enable more places to be made available to Scottish students pursuing ballet at that level. We previously considered the petition on 23 September 2023.

The Royal Conservatoire of Scotland’s written submission—which is much more substantial than the one that was provided the first time around, with which the committee was less than impressed—provides detail about its approach to data collection and dissemination. The submission emphasises that Scottish applicants do not compete for places with applicants from the rest of the United Kingdom or with international students. The submissions states that Scottish applicants

“are viewed as an entirely separate category and audition only in a pool consisting of other Scottish applicants.”

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We have received a further submission from the petitioner, who continues to be concerned about the ability of Scottish students to secure places. He believes that there are other criteria that are not entirely consistent with rejection notices that say that the applicant has not reached the right standard, because some people who have received such notices have, apparently, been accepted at ballet schools elsewhere, particularly the Central School of Ballet in London. The slight difficulty is that different schools will have different criteria, so it is a bit subjective.

The Royal Conservatoire’s more substantive response, which committee members have before them, goes into a lot more detail and satisfies my disappointment about its previous submission. However, I emphasise to the Royal Conservatoire and the committee that we want Scottish students to get the best possible opportunities from national institutions in Scotland.

Mr Ewing, do you wish to make any comments?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 25 September 2024

Jackson Carlaw

I think that Mr Ewing sums up well the feelings of the committee. We appreciate the depth of the Royal Conservatoire’s response, but it would be useful to use the word “uneasy”—which is the word that Mr Ewing used—in any final letter that we send to the Royal Conservatoire. Is it the committee’s view that, in the light of everything that we have received, we should close the petition?

Members indicated agreement.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 25 September 2024

Jackson Carlaw

It is 12 months.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 25 September 2024

Jackson Carlaw

We considered a petition on that subject at our previous meeting, and I wrote to the minister—or, at least, I wrote to somebody—with Mr Ewing’s suggestion about how funds could usefully be transferred from elsewhere.

Does Mr Torrance’s proposal meet the acceptance of the committee?

Members indicated agreement.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 25 September 2024

Jackson Carlaw

It seems invidious that Scottish schools are now behind the standard that is being set elsewhere around the UK and that four in 10 schools—the figure might be slightly higher—would not, in the event that an emergency occurred, have access to life-saving equipment that has a proven track record. I have seen such equipment being deployed, and I know that other colleagues have heard of instances of its deployment in which lives have been saved as a result.

Are colleagues content to support Mr Torrance’s recommendation?

Members indicated agreement.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 25 September 2024

Jackson Carlaw

Thank you very much, Mr MacGregor. I also thank your constituent for submitting her petition, which raises issues for the committee to consider. Do colleagues have any suggestions as to how we might proceed?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 25 September 2024

Jackson Carlaw

If I could just interrupt you on that point, Mr Torrance. In that letter to the Scottish Government, we could draw on some of the additional suggestions that might be made to it from Mr MacGregor’s evidence as well.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 25 September 2024

Jackson Carlaw

Thank you. Are there any other comments or suggestions from colleagues?