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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 21 April 2025
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Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 30 October 2024

Jackson Carlaw

You will have heard the evidence from the previous witnesses, some of whom felt that there needs to be an independent review of the national parks, over and above any review that is being conducted by NatureScot. One of the witnesses referred to Mr Ewing’s contribution when we first considered the petition, when he spoke about people marking their own homework and about the fact that NatureScot is a proponent of what is now being advocated in relation to an additional national park, such that there is not public confidence that there has been an independently generated and proper understanding of the benefits and lessons in creating any future national park. What is your attitude to the petitioner’s calls for such an independent review to be established?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 30 October 2024

Jackson Carlaw

Are colleagues content to proceed on that basis?

Members indicated agreement.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 30 October 2024

Jackson Carlaw

Mr Carson, we are quite tight for time, but I can allow you a question if you can pull your thoughts together concisely.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 30 October 2024

Jackson Carlaw

Does anyone want to come in on that point?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 30 October 2024

Jackson Carlaw

Therefore, it is a presumptive approach. It is presumed that the park will exist and then you can make contributions on that.

Before we move on, I welcome Finlay Carson, who has joined us while we consider the petition. Finlay, it is not normally the case that colleagues can participate in the questioning of witnesses, but should you wish to ask something, I am happy for you to indicate that to me and we will seek to bring you in, if that would be helpful.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 30 October 2024

Jackson Carlaw

We can note that, rather than pursue it. I was already struck by the fierce note of controversy that Mr Mayhew introduced by suggesting that Governments should do what they say that they are going to do.

With that, I thank Mr Lucas and Mr Mayhew for their evidence this morning. It is very much appreciated, and it will help us as we consider and develop the petition.

After all that I have said, we will be hearing from our friends at NatureScot at our next meeting, so I hope that they have been listening carefully to our deliberations today. Following that, we will hear from the Cabinet Secretary for Rural Affairs, Land Reform and the Islands. Members, are you content to consider the petition at a future meeting after we have had the opportunity to hear from NatureScot and the cabinet secretary?

Members indicated agreement.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 30 October 2024

Jackson Carlaw

As we are slightly behind time, I will suspend very briefly. I therefore ask those who are departing to do so quietly and that we change the scenery and personnel very quickly so that we can proceed without much delay.

11:47 Meeting suspended.  

11:48 On resuming—  

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 30 October 2024

Jackson Carlaw

We will keep the petition open and look forward to hearing from Police Scotland in due course.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 30 October 2024

Jackson Carlaw

Mr Carson just made a point about that in his submission. Yes, it seems like an extraordinarily long time for a delay and for nothing to be forthcoming. Those suggestions seems entirely reasonable. Are colleagues content that we keep the petition open and that we pursue those two suggestions and try to get some definition as to what is happening?

Members indicated agreement.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 30 October 2024

Jackson Carlaw

PE2111, which was lodged by Julie Fraser, calls on the Scottish Parliament to urge the Scottish Government to provide families with financial support for early learning and childcare when their child reaches nine months of age. The SPICe briefing notes:

“Funded ELC is available to all three- and four-year-olds and some two- and five-year-olds. Eligibility for children under three is not currently universal, but is based on parents/carers being in receipt of certain benefits or the child or parent/carer having experience of care.”

It also notes that, in the programme for government in 2023-24, the Government said that the expansion of childcare support would cover children from nine months old when it stated that it would

“Work with Local Government and other partners to develop the local infrastructure and services needed to provide childcare from nine months to the end of primary school in specific communities in six local authority areas.”

The Scottish Government’s response to the petition states that it is

“working on the initial stages of an expanded national offer for more families with two-year-olds, focusing first on those who will benefit most.”

It explains that expansion work is currently focused on “insights and engagement”, including

“piloting new approaches through the Whole Family Wellbeing Fund and learning from the six early adopter communities.”

Do colleagues have any suggestions for action?