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Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee
Meeting date: 2 February 2022
Jackson Carlaw
Do members have any other comments? I support what Alexander Stewart said. Given that Citizens Advice Scotland has indicated a number of specific improvements that it would like to see made, I would like to hear what the Scottish Government and COSLA think of those proposals and to ask whether they will undertake a review of the issues raised, in particular the process by which summary warnings are issued and the timescales that are associated with that, because that is quite significant. When Citizens Advice Scotland says that the time is “very short”, I would be interested to understand better what that means.
Are we content to write to the Scottish Government and COSLA asking for their reaction to the Citizens Advice Scotland recommendations?
Members indicated agreement.
Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee
Meeting date: 2 February 2022
Jackson Carlaw
Mr McArthur would like to come back in.
Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee
Meeting date: 2 February 2022
Jackson Carlaw
Thank goodness for that.
David Torrance was on the previous Public Petitions Committee, which heard from the petitioner. Given the recent developments, I am minded to fall in with the suggestion that we bring in HIAL. I think that we should write to the CAA in the first instance to get its views on the petitioner’s latest concerns. I would quite like to get some information from Prospect about what underpins its welcome for the developments and where it now sits in the process. It may well be that that would lead us to invite Prospect to give evidence as well. Are there any other suggestions? Does what I have proposed seem reasonable?
Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee
Meeting date: 2 February 2022
Jackson Carlaw
Thank you. I was going to ask the clerks whether that had been covered by any evidence. I ask the clerks to review that and see whether there is scope to follow up on Paul Sweeney’s suggestion, as I think that that is another facet of the approach that has to be understood.
I do not think that there is anything for us to write to the Minister for Transport about at this stage. Are members content to take evidence as proposed in the first instance?
Members indicated agreement.
Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee
Meeting date: 2 February 2022
Jackson Carlaw
Thank you. I hope that that will take us forward a little bit and that we can make our own contribution to this long-standing issue.
Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee
Meeting date: 2 February 2022
Jackson Carlaw
Thank you for that contribution, Mr Whitfield, and particularly on behalf of the petitioner. Notwithstanding how this is subsequently resolved, when someone is told that their illness is not affecting their life enough, I wonder how that definition is arrived at and whether the person imparting that sage advice would feel much the same way if it was being imparted back to them in return. It seems to me remarkably unsympathetic.
Colleagues, are there any suggestions how we might proceed?
Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee
Meeting date: 2 February 2022
Jackson Carlaw
Are we content with those proposals? We will keep the petition open and we will write to the organisations as summarised. I thank Mr Whitfield for joining us this morning. We will hear and consider the petition further when we have received responses to those inquiries.
That concludes the open part of this morning’s meeting. I thank those people who have been following our proceedings and we will now move into private session.
11:37 Meeting continued in private until 12:00.Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee
Meeting date: 2 February 2022
Jackson Carlaw
PE1860, which was lodged by Jennifer Morrison Holdham, calls on the Scottish Parliament to urge the Scottish Government to amend the Prescription and Limitation (Scotland) Act 1973 to allow retrospective claims to be made.
The petition was last considered on 17 November. Members will recall that, in her previous submission, the Minister for Community Safety advised the committee that the Scottish Government does not hold data relating to the exercise of section 19 of the Prescription and Limitation (Scotland) Act 1973 and that the Scottish Courts and Tribunals Service cannot interrogate the information that it holds, as it is held in a court interlocutor. The committee therefore agreed to write to the minister to ask how the Scottish Government intended to address the data gap identified by the petition. I think that we were all quite surprised by that. The minister promised to write once again to the Scottish Courts and Tribunals Service to raise the issue with it.
The minister also notes that section 19A empowers the court to disapply the time limit and that this discretion is unfettered, stating:
“what matters is the circumstances in which the courts have exercised the discretion, not necessarily the number of times it has been exercised.”
I thought that the response that we received from the minister was the one that we might have hoped to receive the first time round. Are there any comments?
Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee
Meeting date: 2 February 2022
Jackson Carlaw
Indeed. I do not know when we can expect the minister will have written, but we will chase that up until we get an understanding of what has progressed.
Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee
Meeting date: 2 February 2022
Jackson Carlaw
We move on to consideration of continued petitions. The update that I have to give on one or two of the petitions is quite lengthy, so I apologise in advance for giving uninterrupted speeches—I do not often make those in the chamber.
Our first continued petition is PE1804, which was lodged by Alasdair MacEachen, John Doig and Peter Henderson on behalf of Benbecula Community Council. The petition calls on the Scottish Parliament to urge the Scottish Government to halt Highlands and Islands Airports Ltd’s air traffic management strategy project and to conduct an independent assessment of the decisions and decision-making process of the project.
I am delighted to welcome Liam McArthur, who joins us online this morning, and Rhoda Grant, who is back with us in the committee room. Both are with us to speak to the petition. Before I come to them, I will offer a little more background.
The Scottish Government’s latest submission provides an update following the assurance of action plan that was conducted in the week commencing 25 October. The plan was set in the context of HIAL’s announcement that a framework for discussion had been agreed with Prospect, the trade union, to establish a new way forward for the implementation of the ATMS programme. It noted that programme delivery activities were largely paused to enable further delivery options to be appraised.
The submission confirms that the digital assurance office, the portfolio, programme and project assurance team and HIAL would continue to liaise to ensure that appropriate assurance arrangements are planned in as decisions are taken on the programme’s direction.
In its most recent submission, HIAL explains that, as a result of those developments, all industrial action was suspended while talks continued. In addition, new ATMS working groups were established with 27 air traffic colleagues from across several airports to help detail the benefits and risks of a potential way forward. The first of those groups met on 6 December.
At the end of January, HIAL announced that the HIAL board had agreed
“the future strategic direction for the ATMS programme. This will comprise a centralised surveillance operation for Sumburgh, Kirkwall, Stornoway, Inverness and Dundee airports, based at HIAL’s existing approach radar facility on the Inverness Airport Site. Air traffic tower services will continue to be provided locally at each of these airports.”
A late submission from one of the petitioners, commenting on the detail of that announcement, has been circulated to members. In summary, the petitioner raises concerns about the timescales for the new developments; the £9 million that has been spent so far; the implementation of surveillance radar; the timeline for Inverness to be granted controlled airspace; whether HIAL intends to introduce controlled airspace at Dundee, Stornoway, Kirkwall and Wick and, if so, when; and moving Benbecula and Wick from air traffic control to aerodrome flight information service. He is also concerned about what will happen to New Century house, the building that was bought to house the combined surveillance centre and remote tower centre.
The petitioner asks the committee to correspond directly with the Civil Aviation Authority regarding the issues raised and would welcome the opportunity to discuss his concerns with the committee in person. I understand that we heard from the petitioner two years ago.
Like others, I got quite excited when I saw “Reporting Scotland” feature announcements in relation to the petition and thought that maybe we were seeing progress of some kind. However, the petitioners are underwhelmed, to say the least.
Before the committee considers the petition, ask Liam McArthur and Rhoda Grant whether there is anything that they would like to update us on, although we do not want to hear the original submissions all over again. Mr McArthur, I will come to you first. Is there anything that you would like to update us on?