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Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee
Meeting date: 9 March 2022
Jackson Carlaw
Would someone like to pick up Paul Sweeney’s question?
Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee
Meeting date: 9 March 2022
Jackson Carlaw
Excellent. Thank you very much.
Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee
Meeting date: 9 March 2022
Jackson Carlaw
One of the suggestions before us is that we might have an evidence session on the petition at a later date, which might allow us to bring that point in.
Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee
Meeting date: 9 March 2022
Jackson Carlaw
The next continued petition is PE1866, lodged by Daryl Cooper. It calls on the Scottish Parliament to urge the Scottish Government to introduce legislation so that wheelchair users can face frontward when travelling on a bus.
At our most recent consideration, the committee agreed to write to Pam Duncan-Glancy MSP to seek her views on the petition. I am pleased to say that she has sent a response that sets out a number of issues for wheelchair users attempting to access bus services, including: a lack of accessible buses that can lower to allow wheelchairs on board; no seating at some bus stops, meaning people with mobility problems cannot wait for the bus without being in significant pain or distress; poor joined-up transport, meaning that some routes are only partly accessible by bus; and only one wheelchair user being allowed on a bus at a time, meaning that wheelchair-using couples or friends must split up, which is unhelpful at the best of times, but is particularly challenging when travelling late at night.
We were slightly unimpressed by the responses that we received prior to writing to Pam Duncan-Glancy. I think that we thought that there was a bit of fudging in some of what we heard.
Do members have any comments or suggestions for action?
Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee
Meeting date: 9 March 2022
Jackson Carlaw
The next continued petition is PE1871, which is on a full review of mental health services. It was lodged by Karen McKeown on behalf of the shining lights for change group. The petition calls on the Scottish Parliament to urge the Scottish Government to carry out a full review of mental health services in Scotland, which should include consideration of the referral process, crisis support, risk assessments, safe plans, how integrated services work together, first response support and the support that is available to families that have been affected by suicide.
Members might be aware that the petition arose from the petitioner’s own experience. The petitioner’s partner, Luke, died by suicide in 2017 after asking for mental health support up to eight times in the week before his death. I remember that we were quite affected by the submission when we first considered it.
Once again, Monica Lennon joins us, as she has an interest in the petition. I will come to Monica in a moment.
At the previous consideration of the petition, the committee agreed to write to the Cabinet Secretary for Health and Social Care and key stakeholders. We have received several detailed responses, which I will summarise briefly.
In his response, the cabinet secretary highlights how the Scottish Government plans to improve mental health support across Scotland, including by providing additional funding, improving how systems work together, establishing service standards and investing in community support for adults. In September this year, the Scottish Government and the Convention of Scottish Local Authorities will publish a new suicide prevention strategy, which will be accompanied by an initial action plan. A lived experience panel is being set up so that people with lived experience can advise on and inform mental health policy development.
In its submission, the Scottish Association for Mental Health suggests that almost one in four adults continue to wait longer than four months to access psychological therapies. SAMH’s research into service users’ experiences of mental health services during the pandemic revealed that more than a quarter of respondents indicated that their specialist treatment and support had stopped altogether because of the pandemic. That has been the experience of my constituents, and I am sure that it has also been the experience of other MSPs’ constituents.
The petitioner has provided two further written submissions to the committee. The first summarises a freedom of information request that she made to NHS Lanarkshire, which revealed that 74 per cent of patients were not admitted to hospital after attending accident and emergency for mental health reasons. The second is in response to the cabinet secretary’s submission. The petitioner states that, although she welcomes the increased funding, it is crucial to establish how the funding will be used, noting that a review—the aim of the petition—is
“necessary to determine which areas are failing and need reconstructed.”
She also suggests that a specialist crisis centre for mental health is needed.
I invite Monica Lennon to comment.
12:15Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee
Meeting date: 9 March 2022
Jackson Carlaw
As there are no other suggestions, I think that we are content with that. It is an important issue but, given that the legal experts do not support action at the moment, I think that we just want to ask the Scottish Government what more it is going to do, potentially, and to close the petition at this stage.
Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee
Meeting date: 9 March 2022
Jackson Carlaw
Indeed. We have three petitions—PE1845, PE1890 and PE1915—that touch on parallel issues, so that is a sensible suggestion. Are we content to combine consideration of the petition with the others that we have in relation to Caithness?
Members indicated agreement.
Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee
Meeting date: 9 March 2022
Jackson Carlaw
It has been a long meeting but a great one, too, with our youngest-ever petitioner, a very sensible and worthwhile discussion about woodlands, and the consideration of a number of important petitions. I thank everybody for their participation and confirm that the committee’s next meeting will take place on 23 March.
We have one item to discuss briefly in private. I close the public part of the meeting.
12:32 Meeting continued in private until 12:34.Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee
Meeting date: 9 March 2022
Jackson Carlaw
Thank you, David. Callum might be looking for money for his teeth as well—don’t short change him there!
Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee
Meeting date: 9 March 2022
Jackson Carlaw
We are paying for baby boxes. A water bottle does not seem like such a big additional expense.