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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 8 November 2025
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Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Public Participation Inquiry

Meeting date: 14 December 2022

Jackson Carlaw

Yes, but there is a distinction between that and potentially engaging with the parliamentary apparatus.

We will talk about cross-party groups later. I am interested in the importance that is attached to that. Of course, the Parliament does not really facilitate cross-party groups, so that might be something in the report that needs to be looked at again.

We will move on to the next section of the report, which is about how Parliament uses deliberative democracy. Our discussion on that will be led by Ronnie Paterson and John Sultman. Which of you will kick off?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Public Participation Inquiry

Meeting date: 14 December 2022

Jackson Carlaw

John Sultman referred to that a moment ago when I talked about a more detailed programme. Fair enough.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Public Participation Inquiry

Meeting date: 14 December 2022

Jackson Carlaw

I think that that is contained in the recommendations as we move through the report—

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Public Participation Inquiry

Meeting date: 14 December 2022

Jackson Carlaw

You also make reference to the Happy to Translate scheme and the ability of those whose first language is not English to follow proceedings. What was your feeling about that? I am interested to know whether any of the 19 panel members had any experience of Happy to Translate. On what basis did that come up as an option?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 14 December 2022

Jackson Carlaw

Good morning, and welcome to this special meeting of the Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee in 2022. I say “special”, because I am especially pleased to welcome members of the citizens panel on participation, who will discuss with us their report and the recommendations that arose from it.

We have received apologies from our colleague Fergus Ewing, who is not able to be with us today, as well as from—sadly, at the last minute—Alexander Stewart, who was supposed to be joining us remotely from deepest, darkest Bridge of Allan, where I thought communications still reached. However, he has had communications issues and is unable to join us this morning.

Agenda item 1 is a decision on taking business in private. Are the committee members who are present—David Torrance and Paul Sweeney—content to take item 3 in private?

Members indicated agreement.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Public Participation Inquiry

Meeting date: 14 December 2022

Jackson Carlaw

The substance of today’s meeting is the committee’s public participation inquiry. We have with us around the table some of the 19 members who were able to join in that work. Paul MacDonald, Gillian Ruane, John Sultman, and Maria Schwarz have joined us in the room—and I now see Ronnie Paterson, who is joining us remotely. Mr Paterson, I take it that that is a mirror on the wall behind you and not a porthole. I assume that you are joining us from home and that you are not on board a ship somewhere.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 7 December 2022

Jackson Carlaw

Thank you. That is one of the advantages of the Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee. We are taking forward the issues of an individual with a petition rather than bringing forward individual party-political considerations, which sometimes allows us to have a meaningful conversation about the particular issue at hand.

Thank you for your appearance with us this morning.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 7 December 2022

Jackson Carlaw

I should mention that sceptics of the proposal for home reports—of which I was one at the time—were concerned about the principle underpinning home reports, which is that they would do away with the need for undertaking expensive surveys when people were making offers for properties. On the question whether a home report is deficient, it has certainly been my experience in the years since the introduction of home reports that, when someone buys a home, a survey has still been needed as part of the requirements of the mortgage lender.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 7 December 2022

Jackson Carlaw

I am content with both of those suggestions. Are colleagues agreed to take those actions?

Members indicated agreement.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 7 December 2022

Jackson Carlaw

Item 2 is consideration of continued petitions, the first of which is PE1900, on access to prescribed medication for detainees in police custody, which was lodged by Kevin John Lawson. The petition calls on the Scottish Parliament to urge the Scottish Government to ensure that all detainees in police custody can access their prescribed medication, including methadone, in line with existing relevant operational procedures and guidance.

Colleagues will recall that, at our most recent meeting, we took evidence from David Strang, former chair of the Scottish Drug Deaths Taskforce—I gather that he is now part of the implementation group—and Dr Carole Hunter, who is a former member of the task force. Our discussion with them has informed some of the areas that we would like to explore during this morning’s meeting.

I am delighted to say that we are joined this morning by the Minister for Drugs Policy, Angela Constance, and her officials from the drugs policy division of the Scottish Government: Morris Fraser, head of delivery and support unit, and Henry Acres, head of cultural and structural change.

Good morning, and thank you all for coming; you are most welcome. We can move straight to questions, but if you would like to say something by way of introduction or clarification, minister, we would be happy to hear it.