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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
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Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 9 November 2022

Jackson Carlaw

I will let you respond in a moment, Dr Neal, but I should also say that a members’ bill is often the catalyst that leads to the Government adopting a proposal. It is difficult to quantify the success of members’ bill because, on quite a few occasions, the objective has been achieved because the bill has led to the Government understanding and adopting the issue rather than because the bill itself has passed into law.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 9 November 2022

Jackson Carlaw

Item 3 is consideration of new petitions. The first is PE1949, which was lodged by Alexander James Dickson. The petition calls on the Scottish Parliament to urge the Scottish Government to review the rules regarding dual mandate MSPs and to legislate to bring those rules in line with the Senedd and Stormont by preventing MSPs from holding a dual mandate in time for the next Scottish Parliament elections in 2026.

The petitioner has reminded us that, since the formation of the Scottish Parliament, MSPs have been allowed to take their place at Holyrood, while retaining a role or having a dual mandate in other local or national levels of Government. He notes that members of the Northern Ireland Assembly are not permitted to have a dual mandate and members of the Welsh Parliament have a grace period of eight days to resign if they also hold a seat as an MP. He also states that Welsh Parliament members who are peers would have to take a leave of absence from the House of Lords and that those who hold a role as a regional councillor can remain in post so long as the expected day of the next regional election is within 372 days.

As we do with all new petitions, the committee requested an initial view from the Scottish Government. In responding to the request, it stated:

“the Parliament is responsible for all matters relevant to its internal operation, including the terms for seeking its membership.”

Therefore, the issue is not a matter for the Scottish Government per se.

Are colleagues content for the committee to write to the Welsh Parliament and the Northern Ireland Assembly to inquire about the deliberative processes that led to the introduction of the legislation that prevents dual mandates in those legislatures, and to ask about any issues that they have encountered in the implementation of that legislation? Are members also content to write to the Electoral Reform Society to seek more information about the issues that have been raised by the petition?

Once we have considered those responses, we would be able to progress the petition to the relevant committee in the Scottish Parliament that is charged with responsibility for those issues, given that the Scottish Government has said that it is not.

As there are no other suggestions, are members content with that approach?

Members indicated agreement.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 26 October 2022

Jackson Carlaw

We will therefore write to organisations involved in order to do that and ask the Parliament’s engagement team to develop a programme for us. Are members happy for that to happen?

Members indicated agreement.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 26 October 2022

Jackson Carlaw

Would members like us to visit anywhere in particular, bearing in mind that, given our timetables, any visit is not likely to happen until the new year, or is the committee happy for the engagement team to come back to us?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 26 October 2022

Jackson Carlaw

Good morning, and welcome to the 14th meeting of the Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee in 2022.

The first agenda item is consideration of continued petitions. The first of those is PE1862, which calls on the Scottish Parliament to urge the Scottish Government to introduce community representation on the boards of public organisations that deliver lifeline services to island communities, in keeping with the Islands (Scotland) Act 2018. The petition was lodged by Rona MacKay, Angus Campbell and Naomi Bremner on behalf of the Uist economic task force.

We last considered the petition on 4 May, and we thought that it would be useful to invite the Minister for Transport to provide further evidence. I am delighted that we have the minister, Jenny Gilruth MSP, with us today. I think that we are joined remotely—[Interruption.] Oh—she is with us now. Sorry. We also have Fran Pacitti, the director of aviation, maritime, freight and canals at Transport Scotland. I could not see the small type on her nameplate—once her job description is on there, there is little room left for her name. I welcome the minister and Ms Pacitti.

Members have a number of questions that they would like to explore. We are happy to move straight to them, unless there is anything that the minister particularly wants to say before we do.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 26 October 2022

Jackson Carlaw

That is an invitation for a wish list, gentlemen. I come to Mr Grant first. We are slightly short of time now, so I ask everybody to be a little bit concise.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 26 October 2022

Jackson Carlaw

Thank you, colleagues. That was very constructive. Thank you both for attending, minister and Ms Pacitti—I suspect that I got the pronunciation wrong the first time, in my confusion.

09:54 Meeting suspended.  

10:00 On resuming—  

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 26 October 2022

Jackson Carlaw

Mr Grant, can I come to you first? Would you like to comment on that?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 26 October 2022

Jackson Carlaw

I think that leads into your general question, Mr Torrance.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 26 October 2022

Jackson Carlaw

I wondered which pun, from a range of poor puns, you were going to reach for there, Mr Ewing.

I am happy for us to do that. Are members content with that approach?

Members indicated agreement.