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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 12 July 2025
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Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Interests

Meeting date: 9 November 2022

Jackson Carlaw

Good morning and welcome to the 15th meeting in 2022 of the Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee. We have received apologies from the deputy convener, David Torrance, who unfortunately cannot be with us this morning. However, we are joined by his substitute, Marie McNair. I am delighted to welcome her to our proceedings. Good morning, Marie, and welcome to the committee. We are also joined online by our colleague Paul Sweeney, who is participating remotely this morning.

Under agenda item 1, as this is Marie McNair’s first appearance at the committee, I invite her to make any declaration of interests that she wishes to make.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 9 November 2022

Jackson Carlaw

Right. Thank you very much.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 9 November 2022

Jackson Carlaw

I will bring in Alexander Stewart, who will ask about a different aspect of the petition.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 9 November 2022

Jackson Carlaw

I want to follow up on one point with Dr Neal. You referred—as did Nicola Murray in her evidence—to the fact that Scotland stands alone in this regard, and that there is a far higher level of protection in law, or at least an offence that can be pursued in law, elsewhere in the United Kingdom. What impact has that had on the way in which such matters are pursued or on their incidence elsewhere in the UK? Let us establish and agree that such matters sit apart and that there is a separate offence that can, therefore, be pursued in that way. What has been the impact of that legislation in those jurisdictions?

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Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 9 November 2022

Jackson Carlaw

This is a general question, but would you say that that has led to a different kind of sentencing?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 9 November 2022

Jackson Carlaw

Thank you, Monica. You said that the report is 900 pages long—that is almost as big as the number of days on the waiting list. It occurred to me that Parliament will potentially have dissolved before some people are at the top of that waiting list. It is getting close to 2026 before people will be seen, which is an indication of the scale of the issue.

Before we close, does Karen McKeown want to say anything in conclusion?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 9 November 2022

Jackson Carlaw

Thank you. That has been helpful. We have covered quite a lot of ground, and we understand where you would like to see us move in relation to that. Monica, would you like to contribute?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 9 November 2022

Jackson Carlaw

Thank you, Mr Stewart. Are colleagues content with those actions?

Members indicated agreement.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 9 November 2022

Jackson Carlaw

I realise that the petitioner’s experience is not consistent with the representations that we have received from NatureScot, but I do not know that there is much more that we can do. We have received assurances from NatureScot, so I think that Mr Stewart’s proposal seems to be the only one that is open to us. If no other member wishes to comment, are we content to close the petition?

Members indicated agreement.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 9 November 2022

Jackson Carlaw

PE1916, which was lodged by Councillor Douglas Philand and Councillor Donald Kelly, calls on the Scottish Parliament to urge the Scottish Government to instigate a public inquiry regarding the political and financial management of the A83 Rest and Be Thankful project, which seeks to provide a permanent solution for the route.

When we last considered the petition—which was quite some time ago, on 20 April—we agreed to write to Transport Scotland. We have received a response from the Minister for Transport that indicates that five possible route options are currently being assessed, with Transport Scotland expected to make an announcement on a preferred option for a permanent solution by spring 2023. We have also received a response from the petitioners, who have restated their call for a public inquiry and highlighted their concerns around the costs of finding a permanent solution for the Rest and Be Thankful.

Obviously, there are huge issues attendant upon a public inquiry, not all of which are necessarily going to see us make the progress that we might wish. Do colleagues have any suggestions to make on the petition?