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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 15 April 2025
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Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Jackson Carlaw

Do we agree to keep the petition open on that basis?

Members indicated agreement.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Jackson Carlaw

We will keep the petition open and move forward on that basis.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Jackson Carlaw

That brings us to petition PE2048, which has been lodged by James Anthony Bundy, who I see joins us in the public gallery. The petition calls on the Scottish Parliament to urge the Scottish Government to increase awareness of the symptoms of stroke by reviewing its promotion of the FAST—face, arms, speech, time—stroke awareness campaign and ensuring that awareness campaigns include all symptoms of a potential stroke. My colleague Stephen Kerr joins us for consideration of the petition.

At the previous meeting—I apologise again that I was indisposed and unable to participate—the committee heard evidence from representatives of stroke awareness charities, the Scottish Ambulance Service, NHS 24 and clinician academics who specialise in stroke care. Following that meeting, we have received a new submission from the Stroke Association to provide further detail on the research that Mr John Watson referred to during that discussion.

I remind Mr Bundy that the option to provide written submissions to aid our consideration of the petition is always available, whether that is sharing new views or any additional suggestions that he might hope that the committee would consider.

Unfortunately, as I said earlier, David Torrance is not well and is unable to be with us today, but members have had an opportunity to reflect on the evidence that both panels of witnesses provided. On my reading of the Official Report, that evidence appeared to suggest that improving clinical awareness of less common symptoms of stroke and ensuring timely treatment for people experiencing a stroke might hold the key to delivering better outcomes for patients.

Although there appeared to be consensus that the current situation is not good enough, participants raised concerns that, with regard to public awareness, widening the FAST approach to include balance and eyes could have the counter-productive effect of delaying individuals from presenting for diagnosis and treatment, with initial studies indicating lower levels of recall for BE FAST—balance, eyes, face, arm, speech, time—compared to FAST and a risk that individuals will wait for all symptoms to be present before they seek help.

The committee also heard that Scotland’s stroke services have limited capacity and that our priority should be ensuring that people experiencing a stroke can access timely and appropriate treatment. Witnesses expressed concern that, if everyone who presents with vision or balance issues was sent for a stroke assessment without further generalist diagnostic examination, the risk increases that we would end up delaying access for patients experiencing a stroke.

Before I invite colleagues to comment and reflect, I invite Mr Kerr to contribute to our discussion.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Jackson Carlaw

Are we content to act on those proposals?

Members indicated agreement.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Jackson Carlaw

Thank you, Mr Kerr. This petition has impressed its importance on the committee and it is one with which we have engaged, hence the journey that led us to hearing from the two panels of witnesses at our last meeting.

Would any colleagues who were present at that meeting like to offer reflections on the evidence that we heard, on Mr Kerr’s contribution and on how we might now proceed?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Jackson Carlaw

When I invited you to do that, I did not realise that it would sound like “University Challenge”. I should now say that that was your starter for 10. [Laughter.] Thank you all very much, and welcome.

If you are content, we will move straight to questions. I invite you to decide, minister, when you would like members of your team to contribute—that will be the easiest way forward.

As a general opening comment, I note that the committee has not fully understood why the Scottish Government thinks that no new legislation is required to deal with the problem that has been raised in the petition, given everything that we have heard from the petitioner about the difficulties of navigating the current arrangements.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Jackson Carlaw

Thank you. Is it Mr Leeton?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Jackson Carlaw

Will the advice that is being worked on be a pamphlet or an online directional guide? How would people know that that advice is available and find a route to access it?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 22 January 2025

Jackson Carlaw

I very much agree because, given that some pools are now under active threat of closure, the baby could go out with the bath water, if that is not the wrong metaphor. We could lose a resource and it will be far harder to do anything about that if it is gone than to maintain and preserve the resource that is currently there.

Do any other members have comments?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 22 January 2025

Jackson Carlaw

We want to be informed about those matters, but I am unsure whether we would take the view that that is a national issue.