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Official Report: search what was said in Parliament

The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 4 July 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

George Adam

You are saying that there is toxicity in the culture or working environment of Dundee university.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

George Adam

Okay, thank you. I have nothing else to ask.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

George Adam

There is no smoking gun, but there is a trigger moment. How did you not reach the point at which you knew that it was not right and was not going the right way sooner? You are an experienced individual and have been there a long time.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

George Adam

Dr McGeorge, with the greatest respect, you nearly tanked one of the oldest universities in Scotland. I do not understand how people like you can get yourselves into that position with all the checks and mechanisms that there are. Surely there is something that you are not telling us that was the issue.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

George Adam

Apart from that, the term “betterment” itself would have rang alarm bells for me. That is just me being cynical—that is my personality. I am thinking of the whole idea that £8 million was not realised in the financial year 2024, and the figure was £23.3 million in financial year 2025, when the deficit at that stage was about £30 million.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

George Adam

Did you say the principal?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

George Adam

In March 2024, he was praising everyone for their financial resilience while things were in total free fall—I know that the band played on while the Titanic sank, but I do not think that that should be the case in a university. Would you say that a lot of that culture possibly came from the senior level and the principal himself?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

George Adam

Can you give us any particular examples of that?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

George Adam

Amanda Millar, did the court have a similar attitude as Mr McGeorge had with regard to the principal?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

George Adam

When I first saw the Gillies report, I tried to find a smoking gun—when did it all start going wrong? However, there is no smoking gun. It is just a systematic failure at every point.

When you look at the collapse, you see that it is largely internal. There is poor financial judgment and failure to act in real time on clear warning signs. There are overly optimistic budgeting assumptions and weak internal controls. There is a lack of transparency and ineffective oversight by the university court and the executive. To me, those are the basics. How did you get to the stage where you ended up in a perfect storm?