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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 25 November 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 21 January 2025

Michael Matheson

We must be spending the best part of about half a billion pounds a year on concessionary travel schemes for young people and older persons. Is that right?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 21 January 2025

Michael Matheson

It would be fair to say that bus patronage has been declining for many decades. That is not peculiar to Scotland—it is a trend across the board—but I feel that we need to think about whether that annual expenditure of almost half a billion pounds is contributing to a level of transport inequality, whereby some communities do not feel as though they are linked into the bus network. There are communities in my constituency where people simply cannot access bus services, even though they have a bus pass. There are questions about whether spending so much money on concessionary travel is the most effective use of public money to deliver the most efficient and best bus network for people.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 21 January 2025

Michael Matheson

Okay. I do not know where the Volvo buses are being manufactured, but it is certainly not in Scotland or the UK. I suspect that it is in Turkey, which is outwith the European Union and therefore its fair work practices.

If we are going to deliver a just transition and decarbonise the bus network, we need to not just decarbonise the buses but create a manufacturing capacity in Scotland to deliver that decarbonisation of the network because, otherwise, we will not be delivering a just transition. You will be aware that companies such as ADL are laying off staff, largely because of a reduction in work in the second round and because of the national insurance increase. It is important that we do everything within our £4 billion budget to help to support economic growth for manufacturing capacity in Scotland to achieve our objectives of decarbonising our transport system.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 21 January 2025

Michael Matheson

Thanks. Can I now—

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Great British Energy Bill

Meeting date: 21 January 2025

Michael Matheson

Could it invest in carbon capture, use and storage technology?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 21 January 2025

Michael Matheson

Peel Ports owns the Irish berth as well, and its lack of maintenance is its responsibility. It has not invested in the berth, which is why it is not useable. Can you clarify whether Peel Ports is a willing partner? Will it make a significant contribution towards the capital investment that is needed in Ardrossan harbour or is it dragging its feet on how much it is prepared to invest, with a view to trying to get the taxpayer to meet the full bill?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 21 January 2025

Michael Matheson

So, it could be brand new rolling stock, or it could be refurbished rolling stock.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 21 January 2025

Michael Matheson

It is a huge amount of money.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 21 January 2025

Michael Matheson

Yes. The reason why I am asking that is because of the pain that there was in the introduction of the HST programme because of the delay in the refurbishment programme, which meant there was a reduced service on a lot of routes. What I am getting to is, given the history of the introduction of HSTs when I was transport secretary—the issue was not with us but with the refurbishment company, which was unable to deliver on time—I would like some reassurance that the existing HST rolling stock will not be withdrawn until the replacement rolling stock is ready for introduction, in order to prevent any reduction in the service provision.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 21 January 2025

Michael Matheson

Okay, thank you.