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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 21 April 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 December 2024

Michael Matheson

I want to clarify a point that you made earlier, Gary, about ministers looking at using lotting to put land into crofting tenure. If ministers had that power, should such lotting be restricted to land in the crofting counties, or should it apply to any parcel of land, even if it is outwith the crofting counties?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 December 2024

Michael Matheson

Thank you very much for your attendance. Your evidence has been a very helpful contribution to the committee’s evidence taking on the Land Reform (Scotland) Bill. It will help inform our thinking and our stage 1 report, which is due next year.

We now move into private session.

12:18 Meeting continued in private until 12:36.  

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 December 2024

Michael Matheson

Let me take you back to land management plans, which are one of the significant levers in the bill, as it stands. There is a provision in the bill that requires that land management plans be produced—there is an obligation on the landholder to do that. Failure to do so will, potentially, result in a fine. Do you think that the provisions go far enough?

I will expand on why I am asking you whether I think that they go far enough. There might be an obligation on landowners to produce a plan, but there is no obligation on them to do anything with that plan once it has been produced. Should the bill include an express provision that requires a landowner to make progress with their land management plan and any agreed actions that are set out in it?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 December 2024

Michael Matheson

If you feel that the process is a bit gumsy at the moment, what would a process that has teeth look like?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 December 2024

Michael Matheson

As it stands, the bill has a prescribed list of those who can raise complaints. Is having a prescribed list the right approach, and does who is on that list need to be expanded? Do you have a view on who else should be on the list or is a prescribed list of that nature the wrong approach and anyone should be able to make a complaint if they wish to do so?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 December 2024

Michael Matheson

It is like taking the fifth amendment. [Laughter.]

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 December 2024

Michael Matheson

If the commission does not have a view, the federation must have a view, Donna Smith. [Laughter.]

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 December 2024

Michael Matheson

Our third item of business is an evidence session on the Land Reform (Scotland) Bill. Today, the committee will hear from a panel of crofting representatives. I am pleased to welcome Donna Smith, chief executive, Scottish Crofting Federation; and Andrew Thin, a commissioner, and Gary Campbell, chief executive officer, the Crofting Commission. Thank you for your attendance at committee this morning.

For this item, I am also pleased to welcome Rhoda Grant MSP, who will have an opportunity to pursue some questioning following committee members’ questions.

I will start with a broad question. We are at stage 1—looking at the general principles of the bill. You will be familiar with the policy memorandum associated with the bill and the Government’s objectives for the bill. Do the provisions in the bill, as they stand, go far enough to support what the Government is trying to achieve on greater diversity of land ownership?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 December 2024

Michael Matheson

That is a good question, and we will save it for the minister when she appears.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 December 2024

Michael Matheson

On that suggestion, do you have any practical examples of times in the past 10 to 20 years when such a provision could have been useful and would have allowed land to be used for crofting? Can you think of any examples off the top of your head? If you cannot, feel free to get back to us later.