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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 1 April 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 25 March 2025

Michael Matheson

However, I do not see any key milestones relating to how we will ensure that the necessary preparations are made to allow SEPA to progress with the implementation of the regulations. Are there any milestones in advance of the target date in November for ensuring preparedness for implementation of the regulations?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 25 March 2025

Michael Matheson

That is helpful. We have had evidence from stakeholders that, in their view, there was no meaningful consultation with them on the regulations.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 25 March 2025

Michael Matheson

Okay—that would be helpful.

To pick up on the convener’s point about what phasing in looks like, I would like some clarification regarding non-waste operations that are currently unregulated and will be covered by the new regulations as of 1 April 2028. The committee raised the matter with the Government, which stated in response:

“there may be additional costs for businesses to bring their facilities into compliance.”

With the phasing in taking place over approximately the next two years, a business will be facing significant costs associated with the introduction of the regulations, which they were previously not covered by. Over two years, it might actually make a business financially unviable if the costs are significant.

Given that we might not know as yet what the actual financial costs on some of these businesses will be, what flexibility is there in that regard? Some may come back with seven-figure or eight-figure sums. What scope is there to say, “Well, we recognise that it will take you more than the next 18 months or two years to raise the capital and to make sure the business is financially viable”, and offer flexibility so that a business has the time that it needs to make that type of capital investment?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Environmental Standards Scotland (Annual Report and Accounts 2023-24 and Future Priorities)

Meeting date: 25 March 2025

Michael Matheson

Yes, I understand that—you have covered that part. I am trying to understand the extent. What are we talking about here? You say that it is a “small” amount. What is a small amount?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Environmental Standards Scotland (Annual Report and Accounts 2023-24 and Future Priorities)

Meeting date: 25 March 2025

Michael Matheson

Oh, the tens—as in double digits.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Environmental Standards Scotland (Annual Report and Accounts 2023-24 and Future Priorities)

Meeting date: 25 March 2025

Michael Matheson

I am trying to understand the extent and the scale of the challenge. Of the tens of cases in which spillage occurred, on how many occasions did that constitute a significant level over an extended period of time?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Environmental Standards Scotland (Annual Report and Accounts 2023-24 and Future Priorities)

Meeting date: 25 March 2025

Michael Matheson

Okay. Who provided that data?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 25 March 2025

Michael Matheson

Is it the expectation that SEPA will allow that?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 25 March 2025

Michael Matheson

I am looking at the timetable that includes key target dates for implementation of the regulations. The intention is that the new regulatory regime that is provided for by the regulations will be implemented by November this year.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 25 March 2025

Michael Matheson

I must confess that I am somewhat surprised by that. I understand that there are more than 80 AD plants in Scotland; we are bringing in regulations to cover the non-waste AD plants, but at this stage we do not know how many there are. Do we know that SEPA does know that?