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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 6 January 2026
Michael Matheson
I would have thought that, given your expertise in logistics, and given that we are trying to encourage people to put freight on to rail, it would be helpful to know what capacity is available but is not being utilised, and what we can do to try to incentivise its greater use. I know that there are limitations on the number of freight pathways on the rail network, but, if we have not quantified that and do not understand exactly how much capacity is available, it will be difficult to understand how much we might be able to incentivise people to make use of it.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 6 January 2026
Michael Matheson
That would be very helpful. Thank you.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 6 January 2026
Michael Matheson
I suspect that the whole issue around preventative spend goes back to the Christie commission and trying to make that long-term investment in order to get wider societal benefits. The problem is that, very often, the political cycle does not lend itself to that type of investment. I was struck by Rachel Aldred’s point about the need for long-term investment, which a couple of you have also made. The challenge that the Scottish Government will have is that it does not know what its budget will be next year, because it is, by default, set from the UK Government’s budget. That political process issue compromises some of those other issues.
That brings me to the question that I would like to ask Adrian Davis and Rachel Aldred. You do not feel that the transport provisions in the draft climate change plan are sufficient to achieve the reductions in transport emissions that are needed to tackle climate change. Adrian, you rattled off four examples of areas of transport in which we get good bang for our buck in relation to impact. You mentioned congestion charging, road reallocation and the enforcement of parking restrictions—I am sorry, but I missed the fourth example that you gave. If you feel that the transport provisions in the existing plan are insufficient and that there are clear policies that would, if implemented, have a marked impact, why do you think that those policies are not in the plan and the Government is not pursuing them?
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 6 January 2026
Michael Matheson
Given that the objective of the draft climate change plan is to reduce emissions from things such as HGVs, you are saying that it would be more pragmatic to look at drop-in fuels rather than electrification, which feels like a bit of a pipe dream at present. The problem is that using things such as HVO is effectively offshoring by importing fuel, as opposed to making stuff domestically in Scotland or the rest of the UK that could be used as a drop-in fuel. However, there is insufficient Government support for that. Is that correct?
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 6 January 2026
Michael Matheson
Is that information available?
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 6 January 2026
Michael Matheson
I have a question on the concessionary travel schemes, which is probably for Sara Collier, given that her members benefit the most from those as bus operators. In this financial year, the Scottish Government will spend £414.5 million on its two concessionary travel schemes. In the draft climate change plan, in the part about transport outcomes and seeking to reduce car usage, one of the key policy areas to help to achieve car usage reductions is said to be the concessionary fare schemes for older persons and the under-22s. Is there any evidence that the £414.5 million that is being spent in this financial year has any impact whatever on reducing car emissions?
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 6 January 2026
Michael Matheson
Thanks.
09:45Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 6 January 2026
Michael Matheson
We are not just going to import stuff for the purpose of doing it.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 6 January 2026
Michael Matheson
Let me turn to Adrian Davis on the important element of behaviour change in trying to create modal shift. Concessionary travel can play a part in helping to support modal shift, but, if we do not have a wider range of policies that act more like a stick to get people to make use of it, it becomes quite a blunt instrument with quite a high price tag attached and without any real benefits being gained from it, from a climate change perspective. In the draft plan, is there a sufficient suite of other interventions wrapped around the concessionary travel scheme elements to create the type of behaviour change that is necessary?
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 6 January 2026
Michael Matheson
I want to turn to the pathway to achieving the decarbonisation of freight. In relation to that transition, the climate change plan places a large amount of focus on the decarbonisation of HGVs and vans. From personal experience, I think that steady progress is being made in the van market, but there has not been so much progress in the HGV sector. Mr Solomon, how many of the HGVs that are operating in Scotland or across the UK are electric? What does the operational pathway to the electrification of the HGV sector look like over the next 10 to 20 years?