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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 23 February 2026
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

NatureScot (Annual Report and Accounts and Future Priorities)

Meeting date: 17 February 2026

Mark Ruskell

Okay.

I will move on. A key performance analysis in your annual report concerns the condition of protected areas. We know that woodlands are in serious decline. What work are you doing specifically on woodlands and other habitats that are in decline to try to reverse that? We are in quite a desperate state, so what is going to turn the corner on this? What kind of work are you leading to ensure that we are restoring habitats such as woodlands?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

NatureScot (Annual Report and Accounts and Future Priorities)

Meeting date: 17 February 2026

Mark Ruskell

What is your assessment of the possibility of halting nature loss by 2030, specifically in relation to woodlands? Are the conditions in place to halt that and to start to reverse the decline? What do you see as the main drivers behind that?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

NatureScot (Annual Report and Accounts and Future Priorities)

Meeting date: 17 February 2026

Mark Ruskell

I thought that you had a corporate priority around the public, public access to nature and that side of things. Education and engagement are really important for tackling the nature emergency.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

NatureScot (Annual Report and Accounts and Future Priorities)

Meeting date: 17 February 2026

Mark Ruskell

Do you see things through that lens?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

NatureScot (Annual Report and Accounts and Future Priorities)

Meeting date: 17 February 2026

Mark Ruskell

What are the implications of the provisions of the Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill that feed into your major workstreams?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 17 February 2026

Mark Ruskell

Would a better approach not be to have national conditions of carriage that apply to everybody, and to look at ways of enforcing them? This committee received evidence from West Midlands Police, which has introduced a travel safe team on buses, as we are doing with ScotRail, to make sure that the buses there are safe.

We have also had evidence to suggest that those who are perpetrating antisocial behaviour on buses are often males over the age of 22, who are not affected by the concessionary schemes because they are not eligible for them. I am trying to understand the Government’s national approach to enforcing conditions of carriage and making progress in that regard.

Last week, the Cabinet Secretary for Justice and Home Affairs announced, in relation to the railways, 11 key actions that have been agreed with the unions to make our railways safer. I am just not seeing it with the approach that we are discussing. I am seeing the bus companies arguing for a restriction on the national entitlement card, but I do not see evidence that that will lead to any behaviour change whatsoever.

Finally, I will ask about the consultation on the code of conduct. Clearly, bus companies have been calling for it to be brought in for a long time and have been part of those conversations. However, have you engaged with organisations that understand young people in particular, such as the Young Scot card operators and the Children and Young People’s Commissioner Scotland? How have they been involved? If you are talking about changing behaviours, it is really about getting inside people’s heads and thinking about motivations and how you turn the situation around. I am not seeing the involvement of the Scottish Youth Parliament or organisations that work with young people in the production of the code of conduct, but perhaps you will want to inform me otherwise.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

NatureScot (Annual Report and Accounts and Future Priorities)

Meeting date: 17 February 2026

Mark Ruskell

I am aware of lots of good examples—I can see them on my back doorstep. The key issue here is that you have a target of halting nature loss by 2030. When it comes to woodlands, are we going to meet it?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

NatureScot (Annual Report and Accounts and Future Priorities)

Meeting date: 17 February 2026

Mark Ruskell

Okay—it will be really challenging.

Back to you, convener.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 17 February 2026

Mark Ruskell

In a second. The order also poses the risk that we conflate bad and discourteous behaviour on buses with serious criminal behaviour. Even though we have a revised code of conduct in front of us that focuses more on criminality and harassment, there is still a danger that judgment calls will be made and that bad behaviour on buses will be conflated with criminal behaviour. At the end of the day, the order will not make any difference at all.

I would like the Government to put in place the approach that has been taken on the trains with the ScotRail travel safe teams. I know that the Government has work very closely with the rail unions on that, and I think that a better approach can be taken on buses, learning from that experience on the trains, but I just do not see the order making any difference at all.

I will not stand in the way of the order—I will abstain—but I tell you now that I do not think that it will make any difference at all, and that there will still be risks and dangers. The real issue here—restricting people who have shown clear criminal behaviour—will still exist and will not be addressed by whether somebody is going to pay a quid to get on a bus or get on the bus for free.

Minister, did you want to come in?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 17 February 2026

Mark Ruskell

But we are talking about half the bus industry’s income. How can that be a no better, no worse approach? Would the industry miss it if this money disappeared?