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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 13 July 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 May 2025

Mark Ruskell

I will direct this question initially to Emily Johns. It is about what really needs to be fixed. You described the two separate, although related, regimes of environmental outcome reports and the regime that we have here for onshore infrastructure. What changes, if any, would you like the bill to make to the EIA legislation and the habitats regulations? Does the system that we have at the moment broadly work in facilitating development, as Caroline McParland suggested?

The view of the Government is that we are really going to struggle to meet our offshore wind ambitions without some changes, but I am struggling to see what the changes should be and where the good practice is in the UK or in other regimes. I know that you are not here to speak for the entire renewable energy industry—it is a shame that we do not have anybody here from Scottish Renewables or that sector—but perhaps you can attempt to field that question.

10:45  

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 May 2025

Mark Ruskell

That is fine.

My final question is for Caroline McParland. The existing system of environmental assessment within European law has functioned for 30 or 40 years. I want to get a sense from those who carry out environmental assessments in industry, and from your clients, of how beneficial it is to have certainty in the system. Is the system a well-used one that people understand? Are people satisfied that, broadly, the current system does what it is intended to do, or is there a real appetite for changing it and reform?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 May 2025

Mark Ruskell

Do we need legislation for that?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Dog Theft (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 May 2025

Mark Ruskell

For sure. We have had evidence to suggest that, in order to prove an aggravation, it has to be demonstrated that the accused knew that the dog was an assistance dog—in other words, a link must be made between knowing that a dog was an assistance dog and then going on to steal it. What are your thoughts on that? Your intention is, I think, that the aggravation should apply regardless of whether somebody knew that the dog was an assistance dog.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 May 2025

Mark Ruskell

We will come to part 2 of the bill, on environmental assessment, later, but it strikes me that a huge amount of work has already been done through the environmental assessment process around forestry licence applications and development applications. I am interested in your thoughts on how we make best use of the data that is already out there to help to set targets, monitor progress and guide decision making.

Millions of pounds are being invested every single year in assessment and working out what is happening with protected species and recovery, and with the environmental impact of development, yet I do not get a sense of where all the information and knowledge sits within the bill and in the strategies.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 May 2025

Mark Ruskell

I would like to hear how, from your perspective, the proposed powers could be used in a way that would be beneficial. We are trying to understand how the powers might be used and how you might wish to have them used. In England, there is a lot of discussion about the changing regimes and the indication that the Government there has given about how it is going to change things. Do you have anything to add on that?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 May 2025

Mark Ruskell

Basically, does the system work for you in facilitating economic growth?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Grangemouth (Project Willow)

Meeting date: 20 May 2025

Mark Ruskell

Yes. I have a quick question. Tim Dumenil mentioned Mossmorran. How do you see Mossmorran potentially fitting in with the hydrogen options from project willow?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Grangemouth (Project Willow)

Meeting date: 20 May 2025

Mark Ruskell

I think that Professor Andresen was talking about CHP systems that were set up on the back of existing industrial sites, which is quite a niche application.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Grangemouth (Project Willow)

Meeting date: 20 May 2025

Mark Ruskell

Yes. I will bring in Tim Dumenil in a second, but I was struck by something that Lewis Elder said earlier. The potential demand for all the project willow projects would be around 20GW of generation to do the electrolysis and create the hydrogen.

Does that conflict with what you said earlier about blending hydrogen into the gas grid? If we have the demand for a huge amount of power to produce as hydrogen—and potentially we cannot meet all the projects that could be developed through project willow—why would we then want to put it into the gas grid? Surely we should focus the hydrogen production on two or three applications coming out of project willow. Are you making the case for blending hydrogen into the gas grid as a way of pump priming things? If you are, how do you get out of that to use the hydrogen where you really want to put it, which might be in a fertiliser factory or some other form of derivative manufacture where you do not have any alternative but to use hydrogen because electric will not cut it? Does that make sense?