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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 10 July 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Mark Ruskell

If NatureScot does not know how to apply regulations 9D and 11, should you not ask the Scottish Government how you can adapt the site network to meet the challenges of the natural environment in the 21st century? There are powers that have not been used, and there is a bit of caution. Why can we not just work with existing powers rather than change them?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Mark Ruskell

One challenge with the bill is that we do not know exactly how the Government will use the powers, so we are all gazing into crystal balls.

Is the guidance on the site network that is available to NatureScot officers on the ground routinely updated? I hear that there is some inconsistency in the way that that is applied, which is causing issues with decisions about particular features that might be allowed to expand to other designated areas.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Mark Ruskell

Does the example of Beauly to Denny not prove the point that the existing system has worked? I remember the early conversations around Beauly to Denny, when there were concerns about a special protection area for birds near Blackford. That resulted in the line being moved. Clearly, the habitats regulations and the EIA process had a bearing on the development of that project. Does the current system work for industrial development and for nature or are there irreconcilable tensions that require the whole system to be changed?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Planning and Infrastructure Bill

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Mark Ruskell

Right. I am just trying to understand how that works. If you are a developer and you are bringing forward a wind farm project that is under the section 36 threshold, you would expect to do an environmental impact assessment, as the regulations require you to send that to the local authority. However, if you are over that threshold, you will have to engage eventually with the new system of environmental outcomes reports. Is that right? Will we have two systems, effectively?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Planning and Infrastructure Bill

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Mark Ruskell

Okay.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Mark Ruskell

I ask the cabinet secretary to reflect on the fact that it was not just the exclusion of glass that was required in the internal market act exemption; it was an alignment of the deposit value with a scheme in England that did not exist at the time. Was that not the real reason why the scheme could not go ahead at that time? It could have gone ahead without glass but not without an answer to that question, which was an unanswerable question back in June 2023. I assume that there is now certainty about what the deposit level will be in the other schemes that the Scottish scheme will have to align with.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Mark Ruskell

Will EPR meet local authorities’ costs and enable them to invest in and expand glass recycling? Will a point come where it can only go so far in dealing with that line of waste?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Planning and Infrastructure Bill

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Mark Ruskell

I am struggling a bit with that. It might be better for you to write to the committee with some examples of where that applies and where it does not apply. What I am trying to understand is whether the Government is moving away from the EIA system to a new system of environmental outcomes reports. Is that what you are doing? I see that you are shaking your head.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Planning and Infrastructure Bill

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Mark Ruskell

So, the environmental outcomes reports are more about those areas that are in the offshore environment, where Westminster is requiring that regime to be applied. You do not see EORs applying in relation to onshore development or anything that is within the consenting powers of the Scottish ministers.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Mark Ruskell

We need to get on with it. We cannot let the perfect be the enemy of the good, so now is the right time to push ahead with the scheme that is in front of us. It is very regrettable that the scheme does not include glass—we have gone through the impacts on the environment, on our communities, on climate change and on the economics of the scheme—but now is the time to move forward with what we have.

A solution has been found in operating on a three-nation basis, but I think that the Welsh Government is going down the right route. There will be a lot of learning as Wales looks to secure an exemption to the United Kingdom Internal Market Act 2020 and, I hope, successfully rolls out a scheme that includes glass. It will be bittersweet if Wales is successful in that and we realise that that could have been us back in 2023. Impossible conditions were put on the previous scheme. It could have gone ahead without glass a couple of years ago, but there were a lot of other conditions, which meant that we could not move forward at that point.

However, we are losing time. We are in a climate emergency. I see the impact of litter in our communities all the time. We are talking about really low-hanging fruit. Such a scheme is the simplest thing that the Parliament can do to tackle some of these issues. We should have got on with it years ago, but there is now an opportunity to pick up the reins again and move forward. I am pleased that there is now some movement on the issue, which is why I will be voting for the regulations.