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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 28 November 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 September 2025

Mark Ruskell

Some of the witnesses may have already covered this issue. Do you think that the bill is necessary for alignment with the European Union environmental crime directive? Valerie, do you want to start?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 September 2025

Mark Ruskell

Do you think that the bill is necessary for alignment with the EU environmental crime directive?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 September 2025

Mark Ruskell

If you could be brief, that would be excellent.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 September 2025

Mark Ruskell

That is a useful point. I assume that, because the precautionary principle is embedded in EU law, adopting ecocide legislation, in effect, provides states with a way of maintaining alignment. Is that the point that you are making?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 September 2025

Mark Ruskell

If there are no further reflections on that, I will hand back to the convener—or did you want to come in, Jamie?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 September 2025

Mark Ruskell

Thank you.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 September 2025

Mark Ruskell

If yours is a highly regulated sector where prevention comes first, what is your concern about addressing ecocide? What would Simon Parsons’s concern be for the water industry? If it seems inconceivable that there could be ecocide, what is your concern about adopting such an approach, if you think that it does not apply to your sectors?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 September 2025

Mark Ruskell

You have said that the bill would have no impact, because you are already highly regulated. I am not sure what your sectors’ concern is. Does Elspeth Macdonald want to come in?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 September 2025

Mark Ruskell

Do particular parts of Catherine McWilliam’s membership have particular concerns? Are your members all saying that everything is fine because they are regulated, that they see no threats and that they just do not like the idea of ecocide and what it might turn into?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 September 2025

Mark Ruskell

It surprises me that some of your larger corporate members would not be concerned about the bill. Am I right that smaller members think that an ecocide event might be possible under their control?