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To come back to my fundamental question: will there be more or less airtime for Scottish jazz talent as a result of your cutting “Jazz Nights” and the reforms that you have proposed?

Right. Thank you: there will be less airtime for Scottish jazz as a result of that.

What expertise do you have in commissioning across the three genres to which you propose to make changes and cuts? What kind of musical expertise do you, as commissioners, have in those areas?

Right, but you do not have specific skills in those musical genres. I suppose that my question is this: do you understand those musical genres, how important they are and the educational aspect for the listening public—the importance of having a curated show that takes the listener on a journey to understand that musical genre?

Good morning. I start by asking whether you think that the Sewel convention should be more binding in its effect. The committee has heard evidence that there might be practical ways to achieve that. My colleague mentioned the definition of the word “normally” in the Scotland Act 1998, for example. There could be greater certainty regarding the conditions under which Westminster could override refusal of consent. There could be a body to consider or report on a justification for overriding, or there could be a requirement for affirmative support in both the House of Commons and the House of Lords. Those are among the ideas that have been put to us.

I wonder whether that is a matter to which you feel greater attention needs to be paid. What are your thoughts on those types of reforms and are you thinking about others?

Just to be clear, are you saying, from the Welsh perspective, that it would be useful to codify that in legislation—I presume through the Wales Act 2017?

Thank you.

Finally, can I get a perspective from Mr Wragg?

I suppose that our institutions need to be resilient in relation to the political circumstances in which they find themselves.

I have one other question before I come back to the convener. I think that it was Rhodri Morgan who talked about the importance of devolution as a laboratory for policy innovation. I am interested to hear your perspectives on that. Is the current state of affairs in the UK having a chilling effect on policy innovation, given the ability of the UK Government to override particular policy innovations, or are things in a healthy state? I ask Huw Irranca-Davies for the Welsh perspective.

Absolutely. I take from that that we are in testing times, but there is no chilling effect. What are the perspectives of Mr Wragg and Baroness Drake on that?

Absolutely. When we went back last year, we met the same industry representatives that Gillian Martin and I had met several years before, and it was interesting to see the development of that licensing regime over that time. Again, we had interesting discussions with colleagues from Orkney who are now looking to develop such an industry there.

Learning cuts in lots of directions and, following the Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee’s meeting in Reykjavík with members of the Icelandic Environment and Communications Committee, which Fiona Hyslop has mentioned, the Icelandic committee made a visit to Holyrood in January, and we had a productive discussion about how onshore wind has been developed in Scotland and what Iceland can learn from us in that regard.

As a number of members have said, it is clear that our greatest shared endeavour is to save the Arctic from the ravages of climate change, for the sake of all humanity. Katrín Jakobsdóttir, the Green Prime Minister of Iceland summed up the situation well in her speech to the Arctic Circle assembly last year, when she said:

“The Arctic may become unrecognizable in a few decades if we do not act sufficiently today. Everything is changing ... We see glaciers receding, permafrost is melting, heat records are beaten and forests are burning. And all this is happening much faster in the Arctic—where the ecosystem is sensitive and the resources are great.”

Alongside Jacinda Ardern and Nicola Sturgeon globally, Katrín Jakobsdóttir has been instrumental in leading the shift in thinking to deliver a wellbeing economy—an economy whose foundations are ecologically restorative but also socially fair and just. As we move forward to the election of a new First Minister in Scotland, I hope that that wellbeing economy mission remains central to the Government and that we take on the challenges and threats to the Arctic, her nature and her people, together, as one.

I am sure that the First Minister will join me in offering the Parliament’s sincere condolences to the family and friends of all those impacted by the tragic fire at the Shore Recycling centre in Perth early on Tuesday morning. That devastating incident is deeply concerning, not least because it is the second fire in six months at the site.

In the days to come, our emergency services will attempt to establish the facts of the situation. Does the First Minister agree that, following Tuesday’s incident, there must be an investigation into the circumstances of the fire to ensure that such a tragedy does not happen again?