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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 15 July 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Automated Vehicles Bill

Meeting date: 19 March 2024

Mark Ruskell

It was my question, indeed—you have done well to dine out on it.

The position is clear from my point of view. It is a complex area, and it is a new and emerging technology, but it would be odd to have two sets of rules, effectively: a set of rules for automated vehicles and a set of liabilities and regulations relating to that; and a completely different set of rules for everybody else. It feels like there is the potential for mismatch. I hope that that would never happen, but clause 50 raises the spectre that that might happen, which would be problematic. If that summarises your concerns, along with the real examples that you have just given us, I can understand where the Scottish Government is coming from.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Automated Vehicles Bill

Meeting date: 19 March 2024

Mark Ruskell

Further to that, I was thinking about speed limits. Could there be two tiers on speed limits for automated vehicles and conventional vehicles? In the devolved context in Wales, there is a national speed limit of 20mph in built-up areas. Could automated vehicles be run at different speeds under a different set of rules of the road under clause 50?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Automated Vehicles Bill

Meeting date: 19 March 2024

Mark Ruskell

Okay, I will let that sink in a bit.

I have a final question about the broader policy context. I will play devil’s advocate and say that I see automated vehicles as a bit of a costly distraction. Where do they sit within the Scottish Government’s transport policy? We have major issues with infrastructure investment for conventional bus travel and I know that the Government is working hard to support the bus sector in that. Is bus operators investing in automated bus technology a realistic tangible option right now? Will the cost of redesigning streets and systems to accommodate such vehicles not be astronomical? I am interested in where we are right now and where we think this might be going in the future.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scotland’s Railways

Meeting date: 19 March 2024

Mark Ruskell

Welcome back to the committee. I would like to ask you about ScotRail’s off-peak all day fares pilot that will run until June. What are your thoughts on that? Could or should that be made permanent? Is that a good use of public investment, or are there other ways to support people’s return to the railways?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scotland’s Railways

Meeting date: 19 March 2024

Mark Ruskell

That would be interesting. Do you see the need for a simplification of the fare structures across the UK? My understanding is that the UK has some of the most complicated rail fare structures in Europe. Sometimes, we have the most expensive fares; sometimes, we have fares that are very good value. However, as Mr Samson said, it is quite confusing for commuters and travellers to work out how to get those good-value fares.

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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scotland’s Railways

Meeting date: 19 March 2024

Mark Ruskell

I want to ask you about the new normal as regards post-Covid travel patterns. Is that picture settling down? Is the peak still leisure driven? What has the impact been on your services over the past year? Is it now more of a fixed landscape? How are you operating within that landscape? I put that to ScotRail and to Caledonian Sleeper.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 19 March 2024

Mark Ruskell

I just want to make a brief comment. It is important that the UK emissions trading scheme continues to align with the European Union emissions trading scheme. After all, as we have seen with the interaction between the Swiss and the EU schemes, the direction of travel seems to be to link the schemes at some point in the future, which will offer more certainty for business.

From what I can see, however, what is being brought forward in this instrument does not change that question of alignment. It does not alter the number of free allocations, for example, so I do not see any significant divergence arising as a result of it. That satisfies me that we have our scheme, and the EU has its scheme, but the potential to link them after the reform of the EU-UK trade and co-operation agreement is still on the table.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Automated Vehicles Bill

Meeting date: 19 March 2024

Mark Ruskell

So, in theory, clause 50 would grant those powers.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scotland’s Railways

Meeting date: 19 March 2024

Mark Ruskell

I go back to my original question. Is there another option that the Government could take to help, such as subsidising some other form of price support or fare capping for the railways, or was removing peak-time fares the obvious thing to do?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scotland’s Railways

Meeting date: 19 March 2024

Mark Ruskell

I think that that broadly covers matters. Have you had any feedback from passengers who use driver-only operated routes? Have there been particular concerns about antisocial behaviour or feelings of insecurity if no additional staff are on trains to support people?