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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 7 November 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Sustainable Aviation Fuel Bill

Meeting date: 30 September 2025

Mark Ruskell

Do others want to come in?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Sustainable Aviation Fuel Bill

Meeting date: 30 September 2025

Mark Ruskell

I am fine. Thanks, convener.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Sustainable Aviation Fuel Bill

Meeting date: 30 September 2025

Mark Ruskell

Would anyone else like to come in on those questions? You will have to put your hand up, and then the convener will let you in.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Sustainable Aviation Fuel Bill

Meeting date: 30 September 2025

Mark Ruskell

I think that Sebastian Eastham wanted to come in, too.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Sustainable Aviation Fuel Bill

Meeting date: 30 September 2025

Mark Ruskell

That is fine, convener. I will maybe come back in later.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 September 2025

Mark Ruskell

This has been a fascinating evidence session, and I certainly welcome the bill coming to the committee at stage 1. Sometimes members’ bills can highlight the Government’s blind spots, so the session has been really interesting. I want to pick up on a couple of things that came out of Kevin Stewart’s questioning.

First of all, we have this system of environmental regulation and environmental permitting, and I am interested in other jurisdictions that have adopted ecocide as an overarching offence. Has that driven reform of regulation, permitting and licensing, simply because of an underlying fear that some of the regulations are not fit for purpose and that, even though companies might have a licence under those regulations, they might, in some extreme examples, still be found by a court of law to have committed ecocide? I am just interested in finding out what this overarching legal change will do, if anything, to drive further environmental regulatory reform.

Professor Fogleman, I see you nodding vigorously.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 September 2025

Mark Ruskell

Obviously, that legislation has had a cultural impact on the way that businesses operate.

I am interested in you addressing the question whether you think that an ecocide law would effectively encourage Scottish Government regulatory bodies to review existing legislation. I think that perhaps the assumption in this room is that Scotland’s environmental legislation is fit for purpose, but is that your view?

I am aware that, for example, the legislation for mineral permissions goes back to 1974, so there is the adoption in that case of regulations that, arguably, many communities believe are not fit for purpose in the modern world. What is your overall view of environmental legislation in Scotland? Do you think that an ecocide bill such as this one would drive reform? Is reform needed?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 September 2025

Mark Ruskell

Shivali Fifield, do you want to come back in on that point?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 September 2025

Mark Ruskell

I was going to ask Shivali Fifield whether she wanted to come in on any of those points, but I see that she is shaking her head.

My final question is around the cultural change in organisations and industry—I think that Jamie Whittle has already answered it, but I would like to get very brief responses from others. Do you have evidence of where the introduction of an ecocide law has driven that cultural change? Jamie, you have already used an example from previous environmental legislation in relation to vicarious liability, but I am interested in the views of other witnesses as to specific examples of where you think that culture change has happened in certain sectors. Valerie, do you want to come in?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 September 2025

Mark Ruskell

We have looked at how other countries have introduced ecocide legislation. Are there any other lessons from, or examples of, the roll-out of such approaches that you feel that it would be relevant to highlight at this point or which you think are pertinent to Scotland?

Sue, you operate internationally, so you must have some views on that.