The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.
The Official Report search offers lots of different ways to find the information you’re looking for. The search is used as a professional tool by researchers and third-party organisations. It is also used by members of the public who may have less parliamentary awareness. This means it needs to provide the ability to run complex searches, and the ability to browse reports or perform a simple keyword search.
The web version of the Official Report has three different views:
Depending on the kind of search you want to do, one of these views will be the best option. The default view is to show the report for each meeting of Parliament or a committee. For a simple keyword search, the results will be shown by item of business.
When you choose to search by a particular MSP, the results returned will show each spoken contribution in Parliament or a committee, ordered by date with the most recent contributions first. This will usually return a lot of results, but you can refine your search by keyword, date and/or by meeting (committee or Chamber business).
We’ve chosen to display the entirety of each MSP’s contribution in the search results. This is intended to reduce the number of times that users need to click into an actual report to get the information that they’re looking for, but in some cases it can lead to very short contributions (“Yes.”) or very long ones (Ministerial statements, for example.) We’ll keep this under review and get feedback from users on whether this approach best meets their needs.
There are two types of keyword search:
If you select an MSP’s name from the dropdown menu, and add a phrase in quotation marks to the keyword field, then the search will return only examples of when the MSP said those exact words. You can further refine this search by adding a date range or selecting a particular committee or Meeting of the Parliament.
It’s also possible to run basic Boolean searches. For example:
There are two ways of searching by date.
You can either use the Start date and End date options to run a search across a particular date range. For example, you may know that a particular subject was discussed at some point in the last few weeks and choose a date range to reflect that.
Alternatively, you can use one of the pre-defined date ranges under “Select a time period”. These are:
If you search by an individual session, the list of MSPs and committees will automatically update to show only the MSPs and committees which were current during that session. For example, if you select Session 1 you will be show a list of MSPs and committees from Session 1.
If you add a custom date range which crosses more than one session of Parliament, the lists of MSPs and committees will update to show the information that was current at that time.
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Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 7 January 2025
Kenneth Gibson
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Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 7 January 2025
Kenneth Gibson
That concludes questions from the committee. Are there any further points that you wish to make before we conclude this evidence session?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 7 January 2025
Kenneth Gibson
I will put that on the record. That paragraph says:
“The Scottish Government has contacted public bodies three times since January 2023 to assess their ability to carry out reform. These requests did not generate concrete information on the quantity, quality or anticipated impact of public bodies’ collective work on reform ... There is no evidence that specific action has been taken to remove these barriers”.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 7 January 2025
Kenneth Gibson
Understandably, everyone wants security of employment, but if an organisation has to reduce its head count for whatever reason, it will end up having to ask for voluntary redundancies. Sometimes, in order to balance the books, people will leave who it does not want to leave and people whose jobs are perhaps no longer really required will stay. Those people might not have the skills or even the aptitude to move somewhere else. That causes difficulties, not least for the ability of an organisation to deliver services.
In terms of progress on public service reform, you say in paragraph 69:
“The Scottish Government required all portfolios to lay out their savings and reform plans by the end of the financial year. These plans contain different levels of detail and estimates of how reform will affect costs and budgets. Together they do not provide the information needed to estimate how much reform will save.”
How much do you estimate needs to be saved by such reform, and what does the Government have to do to get on track in order to reach that objective?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 7 January 2025
Kenneth Gibson
Indeed. If people want to come in on that issue, I would be more than happy for them to do so.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 7 January 2025
Kenneth Gibson
In my experience, we have gone backwards on flexibility in some respects. For example, a decade ago, some of my constituents in Skelmorlie, which is on the border of the NHS Greater Glasgow and Clyde area, would have been able to go to Inverclyde hospital, but now they have to jump through all sorts of hoops to do that. Eighty-year-olds are having to visit relatives in hospital in Crosshouse, which, from their perspective, is at the far end of Ayrshire, when they have another hospital a few miles up the road.
There used to be a simple arrangement whereby people from Skelmorlie would have gone to Inverclyde hospital in the NHS Greater Glasgow and Clyde area and NHS Ayrshire and Arran would have paid for that, but I feel that there is now a reluctance to allow that to happen. The interests of the patients seem to be secondary to accountancy concerns. I am not convinced that the flexibility that you have mentioned has improved over the years. In my experience, we have gone slightly backwards in that regard.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 7 January 2025
Kenneth Gibson
You have said that there does not seem to be a baseline to show where we are now compared to where we want to get to. I asked about that earlier, but I do not think you specifically answered the question about what savings you envisage can be delivered by public sector reform, and in what time period. That depends on the direction that the Government takes, but what realistic financial aim should the Government hope to achieve through the reform that you would like to see?
For example, in your report, you note that the Scottish leaders forum said that the
“current system of accountability does little to encourage cross-organisational working and holding individuals to account for their role in ensuring their organisation contributes to the performance of a collection of organisations”.
If we assume that that is resolved—that the Government looks at your report, ticks every box, says, “We’ll sort that,” and then does sort it—where can we end up and over what kind of timescale, and what kind of savings can be made in order to reinvest?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 7 January 2025
Kenneth Gibson
I was going to go to Chris Kerr, but someone else has indicated that they want to come in first.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 7 January 2025
Kenneth Gibson
If our other guests have similar frustrations, I would be happy to hear them.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 7 January 2025
Kenneth Gibson
I am just getting warmed up but, given that time is against us—we will have another panel following this one—and all my colleagues are keen to come in, I will leave it there.